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tuan
29-06-03, 09:29
http://www.reefhaven.co.uk/fish/bangaii_cardinal.jpg

Common name:
Family: Apogonidae
Other common members: Apogon pseudomaculatus - Two spot cardinal

Apogon maculates - Flame Cardinal

Sphaeramia nematoptera - Pyjama Cardinal

Apogon leptacanthus - Blue Streaked Cardinals

Habitat:
Introduced into the hobby in 1995 at MACNA 7 (Louisville Kentucky), these fish were first discovered in 1933. Bangaii Carninals are primarily found in the mid waters off the remote Bangaii island in the Indonesian archipelago.

Observations have been reported of aggregations of small groups of 2 to 60 animals living among the long spines of sea urchins (diadema).

Captive care: easy/moderate

prefers a tank of at least 20 gallons with plenty of places to hide & swim.

can grow to about 2-3 inches

carnivorous, likes a variety of meaty treats, and prefers live food

may initially be difficult to get to accept offered foods such as flakes, but eventually learn to eat most things

nocturnal hunter, more active during dark hours foraging for pods

reef safe, peaceful with most tank mates

keep singly, in pairs or in large groups. Territorial fights may occurs

territorial fights may occur.

Breeding:
Unique amongst marine aquarium hobby fish, Bangaii Cardinals are mouth brooding live bearer. It is ironic also that it is even easier to breed and raise these fish in captivity than the common clownfish, and yet the collection pressure for the trade have nearly pushed these fish to the brink of the Endangered Species list.

Life begins for these remarkable fish as red eggs, about 2mm in diameter, carried in a sac by the female in the mouth. When ready, the female releases the eggs, and the male fertilize them and then promptly scoops them up into his mouth. Approximately 20 days later, fully formed fry hatch and continues to be carried by daddy for another 3-4 days.

Safety is sought for the frys in the form of the long sharp spines of sea urchins (Diadema), or the tentacles of sea anemones, as the male finally release them out. Successful breeding and raising of frys in captivity have been frequently reported. Sometimes aquarists have even provided the safe haven of a special sea urchin a-la-cocktail-stick (cocktail sticks or BBQ skewers pinned into a blob of putty). Various levels of success have been reported with different style of feeding, whilst small live food is preferred, enriched frozen fares have also been used successfully.

Further readings:
Articles from Frank Marini, an authority on the captive breeding and raising of these fish
http://www.reefs.org/library/article/f_marini.html
http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Art...rini/marini.htm (http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/Articles/v4_i4_marini/marini.htm)
http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/f_mar...ini_020799.html (http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/f_marini_020799.html)

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Mode
30-06-03, 13:16
Yep, they are a cool fish!

They are unusual in shape and colour and always get a mention from visitors to the house!!

I agree with the feeding statement, mine were reluctant to take flake food but eat frozen (well defrosted) mysis and brine. I vary the feed between flake and frozen and they are getting used to the flake stuff.

I have two and they behave themsleves with all the other fish and corals.

Have posted pic before but here it is again!

http://ultimatereef.net/uploads/Cardinal.jpg

mode

Andrew N
30-06-03, 15:02
A couple of pics of my Bangaiis - great fish.

http://www.waterfordroad.co.uk/reeftank/Oct2002/banger_front.jpg

The male (Mash) is carrying his sprogs in his mouth - you can clearly see his "bulldog" expression:

http://www.waterfordroad.co.uk/reeftank/Oct2002/bangaii_and_eggs.jpg

Cheers, Andrew N

minireef
11-07-03, 23:31
hi people,i just bought a pair of these in the hope of breeding them..thing is they aint a pair..two males i think.what would you advise..?

add a couple more in hope of a pair bonding ? as i have read that they may fight to the death any help would be great thanx.. :wacko:

lex
19-08-03, 20:57
how do you sex them ??

hawkeye
23-08-03, 01:07
I've got a brood of these on the go at the mo, only I cant seem to find an answer to the following anywhere can anyone help...?

If you take any two juvenile Banggais and house them together will you end up with a breeding pair ie one will become a male and one female... or is their sex defined at birth ?

Cheers
Andy

tuan
23-08-03, 06:05
how do you sex them ??
I've read/been told that the second dorsal fin is much longer on a male - though this is subjective and so not so reliable. Also, IIRC, once sexually mature the male has a large jaw than a female.

They will not change sex from birth.

bonny2
01-10-03, 22:03
you call them there livebearers, well they arn't true livebearers but it's still an interesting trait :) these are pretty cool fish and would consider some if i hadn't already filled up my stock list :(