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>>Marine<<
08-11-04, 10:49
Hi all

Finally bought my Percula 120.....even though it is slightly too big for the room :)


Initial thoughts are......the tank and layout....are really good.....the only dislikes are the slight hum on the pumps.....which i am trying to find an answer to slightly quieten down....and its a bit difficult to reach the back compartments....but not too bad

Will post some pics on the stages of setting it up later

Joe

maffu
08-11-04, 11:25
invest in a kick stool.. or a little step thingy.. invaluable for reaching down the back!

best of luck
m

Smart82
08-11-04, 15:38
SNAP!

Hi, i also have a Perc 120 in silver, i found that the high level of sound from the pumps decreased over time, sometimes i found that if you move them a little the buzz/hum can change dramatically, just a thought you could try.

Good luck, hope all goes well for you :thumbsup:

Martin

peachys
08-11-04, 17:38
hi >>marine<< :D

mine had a loud hum to it,then i did a water change and now its almost silent :huh:

good luck mate! :P

>>Marine<<
08-11-04, 18:49
Hi all

Thanx for all your advice and interest

Found myself a good little stool....Hopefully in time, the hum will decrease :wacko:

Here are some pics.....I know you have seen the same type before...sorry B)

Testing 1

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%201.jpg

Joe

sowerby reef
08-11-04, 19:01
the only dislikes are the slight hum on the pumps

I would also confirm that the pumps will be very quiet after a few weeks.

Kev

peachys
08-11-04, 21:18
thats a lovely room you got there mate ;) you'll soon forget your tv's even there :D

>>Marine<<
08-11-04, 21:28
Tank on stand....Really heavy !!

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%202.jpg


Filling up with r/o from hosepipe in kitchen....Only took 3 1/2 days !!!!

When half full, i added ALL the required salt, and it took 3 DAYS to dissolve.....so dont make the same mistake.....best to add gradually !!!

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%203.jpg

Added a portion of live river shrimp to assist the maturing cycle..something to look at

Bought 26k of live rock to start the cycle, and give me some ideas as to the aquascaping

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%204.jpg

Day 4 Nitrite < 0.3
Day 5 > 0.3
Day 6 0.6

Will gradually be adding more llive rock

Hopefully this will be of interest to some of you old and new !!

If you think i have done anything wrong.....Please let me know !!

Joe

kitenski
08-11-04, 22:01
evening,

your a bit further ahead than me. One thing is that I was told to put the live rock on eggcrate to allow water to circulate underneath. If you read the thread in here called Big Build 3 Anna has some great pics of the egg crate she used. I've not gone to so much detail as she has, ie not added surround etc.

HTH

regards,

greg

>>Marine<<
08-11-04, 22:21
Hi Greg

Must be honest, i am still thinking about the eggcrate. It would not take 5 mins to remove the rock

I am also impressed with Anna's setup, great workmanship and detail.....should that be ladieship ?? :lol:

My priority is to mature the tank, which will take some time.....so i have untill then to decide.......Plus i will only be having a shallow sand bed

Joe

kitenski
08-11-04, 22:22
I've just cut my eggcrate up, don't think it can do any harm to have it, but then again from what I've read people have had rock sitting on the bottom without it as well!

Good luck, it'll be interesting to compare notes!

regards,

Greg

>>Marine<<
08-11-04, 22:39
No harm at all Greg !!!

Just seen your latest pics. See where your coming from with the design...looks good !!

Would probably put more pipe in the centre of the eggcrate....try standing on it slightly in places and see if it dips...thats where you need more...remember how many kilo will be resting on it

Joe

peachys
08-11-04, 22:53
starting to look great mate!

in the first of three pics is that some guy stealing your tv ;) :lol:

jamie reefer
09-11-04, 00:46
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D :thumbsup:

clippo
09-11-04, 11:36
looks like it should be impressive once complete... doesn't the positioning of the tank in relation to the TV and seating give you problems with glare/reflections..... particularly as this tank has a MH? (I notice the MH seems to be quite close to the water surface in the last shot B)

control center
09-11-04, 14:00
Think he's right jo that m/h is a bit low and if u need any egg crate i think iv got a few spare sheets some where looking good though :thumbsup:

sowerby reef
09-11-04, 15:32
One thing is that I was told to put the live rock on eggcrate to allow water to circulate underneath.

If you don't use egg crate the results will be exactly the same.

Kev

JAGR
09-11-04, 20:13
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Nov 8 2004, 11:01
Hi all

Finally bought my Percula 120.....even though it is slightly too big for the room :)


Initial thoughts are......the tank and layout....are really good.....the only dislikes are the slight hum on the pumps.....which i am trying to find an answer to slightly quieten down....and its a bit difficult to reach the back compartments....but not too bad

Will post some pics on the stages of setting it up later

Joe
hi ive just set my perc 120 up why do they put the light cable on the left when the cable hole is on the right its on the right on the 90

Matt I
09-11-04, 21:11
thats looking impressive. what kinda stock are u thinking of keeping?

cheers

matt

>>Marine<<
09-11-04, 22:01
Thanx all for your input !!!!!!!!

Peachys..........What TV ??? ..... No really.....I can have one eye on the tv, and one on the tank........" I missed that bit luv...what did he say " :lol:

Clippo

doesn't the positioning of the tank in relation to the TV and seating give you problems with glare/reflections

Fortunatly no glare on the tv. Rippling reflection on wall behind the tank, and on ceiling. Bit like blackpool illuminations.
I put the M/H there just while i was working on the pumps. will try 20cm although the book says 30 cm. Dont really understand the theory of the heights, apart from dont let the water splash on the M/H glass.....Thanx for noticing

:)

Hi CC.....Thanx Will give you a ring

Kev

" If you don't use egg crate the results will be exactly the same "

I agree...so long as you have a shallow depth sandbed

Goo

[/QUOTE]hi ive just set my perc 120 up why do they put the light cable on the left when the cable hole is on the right its on the right on the 90

Thanx for reminding me...Totally agree...Possibly because the light was designed before the tank ?? I had to extend the lead, to comfortably reach the sockets

Matt I

thats looking impressive. what kinda stock are u thinking of keeping?[QUOTE]

Thats a good question !!!! :wacko: I havn't even thought about it yet.....I knew there was something i hadn't thought of yet !!! :unsure: Not too sure yet ;)

Thanx again

Joe

My Quotes are looking funny ????

>>Marine<<
11-11-04, 22:26
Hi all

Quick update

Day 7 Nitrite 1.6
Day 7 " 3.2
Day 8 " 3.2 ......Could be going up....or down ??

Tank is now very clear

Still got about 50% of Live river shrimp left......Funny what you will stare into a tank and look at

Found one hitch-hiker.....some sort of snail, about 1 1/2 inches...with a wavey shell

SG 1.24
Temp 27 ...with M/H on
Temp 25.5 " " off

Moved the rock around a little, to get some ideas.....Gee !! ..This is hard

Will turn on the skimmer later for a bit, just for a play
May need some advice on setting up Please !!!
I dont intend to keep it running yet....due to no load in the tank

The only Mods iv done so far is
1 Put a piece of coarse sponge between the second comb and skimmer, to cut down the water noise slightly....as advised :)

2 Put some filter floss, under the trickle filter plate, above the bioballs....to catch some of the crud....as advised :) ..it works !!!

Any other mods I could try at this stage Please let me know

Thanx

Joe

>>Marine<<
12-11-04, 09:00
Day 9 Nitrite 0.9 Going down....Whoope !!!!

Not lost any river shrimp

Stevielad
12-11-04, 09:32
Ahhhhhh! Very nice!!

Now I've decided what I want for my next tank - and I've not even got my current one set up yet!!

Good taste in speakers too - nice KEFs!!

:thumbsup:

clippo
12-11-04, 09:59
possibly try to even out temperature swing.... IMO 1.5c over 12hrs is on the high side (although I imagine other members may run this with no probs...).

>>Marine<<
12-11-04, 23:04
Stevielad.........Thanx......and you know your speakers !!! :)

clippo.......Tend to agree with you.......will work on it.....Thanx !!!

>>Marine<<
15-11-04, 22:30
Temp now constant 27

Nitrite 0...Whoope

Added 6 large Snails

Adding more l/r soon...then start to aquascape.....well...throw some rocks around really

>>Marine<<
20-11-04, 19:18
Added another 15k of L/R 2 days ago

Spent 8 hours trying to arrange the rock....Gee its hard !!!!

Next day got a massive Ammonia spike....must have been a lot of die off
Seens like its re-cycling again....Nitrite has gradually gone up again...its reading 1.6 at the moment

Getting a lot of green algae now, as expected.....hopefully it will pass

Skimmer starting to pull out some nice gunk

Will add some pics later

>>Marine<<
21-11-04, 23:14
Nitrite going down.....0.3

Still got the green algae....doesn't seem as bad....maybe....just keep cleaning glass

Bought a 30lb bag of Aragamax suger size sand

Oh !!....and could not resist 6 brown leg hermits...one sand shifting starfish...will have to keep him fed till the sand dirtys up

kitenski
22-11-04, 09:53
I thought you'd couldn't add critters until your nitrite readings were down to zero (Maybe getting myself confused here!!)

Mine's also full of green algae, nowt in there at the moment, still getting nitrite readings.

Do you have air bubbles in the water column your skimmer sits in???

cheers,

greg

kaos
22-11-04, 11:01
HI,

Was just wondering how you extended the cable to your halide, im setting up the same tank as you at them moment. Is it possible to go inside the halide and put in a new longer cable ? i didnt fancy doing my usual by twisting the ends of the new and orignal cable together and a bit of insulating tape to stop it falling off ;) hehe (joke)

Thanks

Stuart

Matt I
22-11-04, 21:52
any new pics?

>>Marine<<
22-11-04, 22:50
Hi Kaos
Is it possible to go inside the halide and put in a new longer cable ?

No probs...as long as the power rating is the same....easy job.....don't forget to unplug first ;)

Hi Greg
I thought you'd couldn't add critters until your nitrite readings were down to zero

Technically correct....but as the nitrite was on the way down...never found a prob
Add critters gradually though

Do you have air bubbles in the water column your skimmer sits in
Yes...exactly the same as yours...and occasional large bubble.....took a few days to start working.....now working great

Matt I
Pics on the way...not much to look at though....tank still cloudy after adding sand

Joe

>>Marine<<
23-11-04, 00:13
Hi All

New pics

First lot of rock
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%202.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%203.JPG

Second lot of rock with suger sized sand
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%204.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%205.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%206.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%207.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Pic%208.JPG

Also added cleanup crew

Oh !! forgot....Glass normally covered in green algae....Just cleaned the glass

:)

Also had to lower the light to 20 cm because of the glre when sitting down.....got to keep the missus happy

Any Ideas of making a small deflector for the light ???....Must look tidy ;) :)

Joe

Mode
23-11-04, 14:37
Looking good - where did you buy the setup? What comes with it?

As for the light glare when sitting down - not sure but the drop in height should be ok - I have mine about 15cm over the waterlevel.

Mode

kaos
25-11-04, 21:25
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Nov 22 2004, 23:02
Hi Kaos
Is it possible to go inside the halide and put in a new longer cable ?

No probs...as long as the power rating is the same....easy job.....don't forget to unplug first ;)


HI,

Do you know what the power rating cable is that i need, Sorry dont know much about electrics :blush:

Thanks

Stuart

>>Marine<<
26-11-04, 00:26
Hi Kaos


Do you know what the power rating cable is that i need

The power rating for the lights are 340watts....Not too sure what that converts to in amps......Dont quote me but i believe that watts divided by volts = Amps

340watts divided by 240volts = 1.4 amps

Why not take the cable with you to the shop......They should be able to tell you by the size of the cable

Sorry cant be more helpfull

Joe

ziggy
26-11-04, 00:30
Looking good Joe :thumbsup:

>>Marine<<
26-11-04, 00:41
Hi Mode

where did you buy the setup? What comes with it?

Most good lfs sell them....look on the sponsers board

I believe the nearest to you is Coral Garden Aquatics....Very helpfull !!!

They come with everything apart from the heater

Thanx for the info on the lights
:thumbsup:

Joe

peachys
26-11-04, 06:41
Originally posted by ziggy@Nov 26 2004, 00:42
Looking good Joe :thumbsup:
yep! it certainly is! B)

kaos
26-11-04, 11:19
Thanks joe,

Ill do that, will have to get some batterys for the camera and post some up of my new tank.


Stuart

>>Marine<<
26-11-04, 12:24
Hi Kaos

Ill do that, will have to get some batterys for the camera and post some up of my new tank.

Looking forward to it.........we all love pics !!!!!

Joe

>>Marine<<
01-12-04, 00:00
Hi all

Im going through a MASSIVE green algae bloom at the moment....kept cleaning the glass....then read that its better to leave it alone as it just spreads it more

Got a couple of Conches....Wierd looking things....but never stop working....good sand cleaners

Look like a large sphericle snail....with a nose like an elephant....been watching them for hours

Will try and ride out the algae bloom...think its normall...but open to ideas !!

Joe

spawns
02-12-04, 03:05
Hi joe, nice tank u got there. IMO, you should go for thick DSB since your tank are sumpless.
Your MH is nice. i love the super slim design. :thumbsup:

tabs
26-12-04, 18:48
is the light system that comes with the perc 's any good ?, its just that theres a high percentage of folk who post pics of there percs on here have changed the light system from what comes with the perc ? thanks

mark-c-
26-12-04, 21:58
Hi tabs

imo the light system on the percs is very good,they also look good.i dont think many people have changed the light system apart from Anna who had a hood made(see big build 3 on this forum) but there has been a few people who have payed extra when ordering there tanks to get 250w bulbs instead of the 150w.

Mark

tabs
26-12-04, 22:03
cheers mark...as im a newbie could you gimme a clue on this one mate please....

if there 2 light fittings on the perc...hows the best way of doing it ? ... a normal white one and a blue one ? (for evening / night time) .. sorry for the lack of proper names for the lights ... :wacko:

mark-c-
26-12-04, 22:26
no,you would change both the metal halide bulbs to 250w thats if tank was a 120 there is only the one bulb on a 90

you cannot put a blue bulb into a metal halide unless it was a halide that had blue tubes or bulbes fitted to start with and these lights cost a fortune so what you do is you add your own actinic(blue tube light)there is a couple of ways to do this

1,fit it under the glass sliding shelf that comes with tank-look at stuarts perc120 under this forum or check aquamedic chromis tanks again on this forum.

2 it can be fitted with a reflector running independant but clipped on to metal halide


ps the lighting imo is fine as standard you would only be changing if you were going to keep sps corals or lots of frags but they should be fine imo under the 150s,think you only have to pay the difference on the bulbs so not a big cost.

Mark

tabs
26-12-04, 23:19
cheers mark...

thats totaly lost me mate...could you break it down into simple'ton terms ...please :blink: :( :blink:

>>Marine<<
27-12-04, 09:18
Update...Sorry for the delay !!!

Now, where was I ??

Oh yes ..Algae bloom

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Algae%202.JPG

Lasted about a week...very frustrating..but cleared up on its own

water has always been very slightly misty...so ran a U/V for 12 hours ...then clear as a whistle

Bought a pair of Percula clowns...very nice looking...more red looking than orange
Took them a couple of days to eat...but now they are very keen...must watch that i dont overfeed

Have now added some Rowaphos just above the sponge...after the skimmer

Will get back with more updates and Pics

Joe

mark-c-
27-12-04, 19:01
Hi Tabs

in simple terms on a perc tank the standard lighting is fine and doesnt need changed.
in a years time when its time to change the bulbs you can possibly buy 250w bulbs instead of standard 150w if you think you need it and you will also have a years experience behind you.

tanks do not come with actinic(blue lights)unless you buy a unit that has them and they are very expensive so most people fit actinics to the tank separate.if you look at the topics on stuarts perc120 or aquamedic chromis tanks it will tell you how its done with pictures.

HTH

Mark

john27
27-12-04, 19:33
Hi Mark,
You cant use 250w bulbs on a 150w halide.

John.

fire999
27-12-04, 19:39
I have a perc 90 with std 150 w light , also added a atinic , adds a gread deal of colour to the corals , and after the MH has gone out :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

mark-c-
27-12-04, 19:55
oops!

thanks john

thought i had seen somewhere poeple upgrading,so is it only when you buy the tank you can upgrade the lighting and pay the extra for a 250w halide?

just wondering mine has standard 150w

cheers

Mark

john27
27-12-04, 20:11
Hi Mark,
You can only upgrade them before you buy the tank. You would need to sell your 150w unit and buy a new 250w unit now.

John.

mark-c-
27-12-04, 20:13
cheers mate

I see what you mean,was getting mixed up.

Mark

john27
27-12-04, 20:17
Hi Mark,
Or you could stick a 400w light on and 2 T5s like i have :D

John.

tabs
27-12-04, 20:18
c'mon then lads..spill the beans for us newbies..lol

is this the best route to take when buying the perc then ? .. to upgrade to 250w ?

or should i say...what "cant" be kept in the tank using 150w lighting ?

:thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :thanx:

john27
27-12-04, 20:23
If it were me i would upgrade to a 250w unit when ordering the tank. It is not that much more cash. At least then you can keep anything. It gets expensive otherwise selling lights to keep upgrading, which i know all about.

John.

tabs
27-12-04, 20:28
so could someone please explain about T5 and T8 lighting ... :blush:

which is used for what ect...thanks chaps, i bet your all getting fed up with me, go on say it, i dont mind, no one can hear me sobbing from here :(

john27
27-12-04, 20:34
Hi.
T5s and T8s are flourecent tubes. The T5s are thinner tubes than T8s, so you can fit more in a set space ( inside a hood)

John.

tabs
27-12-04, 20:40
cheers john, now im getting a bit more wiser..lol

so is there any difference in what can be kept with T5 and T8 lighting ..ie, is one better for different species of fish, corals ect ? .. or is it just the size that differs

:thanx:

john27
27-12-04, 20:49
The T5s should be better than the T8s for output. You can keep soft corals and fish with either. Then it also depends how many tubes you can fit on top of your tank. The more the better. But then its just easier having halides than a mass of tubes.

John.

peachys
27-12-04, 21:51
hi joe mate :D

your tanks looking very much like mine most days,like you've got green glass :P i clean it everyday at the moment just so everyone thinks i look after it :D very frustrating as i keep knocking my snails off with the magnet and my crabs are on like pirahna's :lol:

mark-c-
28-12-04, 17:14
Hi john

so you have a 400w halide and 2 t5s above your perc?
wow thats going to be bright
couple of questions

1,how do you find that?
2,what would be the advantages of that lighting on the perc?

cheers

Mark

oh another lighting question,got my perc 90,transferring 8th jan but it came with ocean light that is same as my chromis,was told thats the lights they are now using on perc90,its the same 150w bulb so do you think i would have any problems with this?was also told it would look neater.any comments guys?

Mark

john27
28-12-04, 17:29
Hi Mark,
Yes there is a 400w halide + 2 t5s on my perc 90. The reason i put them on is i am transfering a lot of corals from my 6 foot tank to the perc 90. My 6 foot tank has double 400w halides. The only problem is trying to keep the temp down. I have a clip on fan on the tank at the moment, it works but looks awfull. There is a chiller on my 6 foot tank which i will move over when i get rid of the tank.
The light that came with my perc 90 was also the 150w ocean light. There is no difference to the older light unit they used to supply only the ocean light looks better.

John.

mark-c-
28-12-04, 17:49
Thanks John

was a bit worried but as it was the same wattage thought it should be ok.

do you think i will struggle with keeping acros etc with 150 lighting?i have frags in chromis they seem to be doing ok but not really growing as such,wonder if lighting possibly not bright enough?

anyone know,when they ordered there tank,how much it was to upgrade to the 250 from 150? as mine is still in box i wonder if i speak nicely to LFS.

Cheers

Mark

mark-c-
28-12-04, 17:54
ps sorry for hijacking your thread marine,hope you dont mind too much,perc owners seems to be over around 4 or 5 threads at the moment :rolleyes:

Mark

kaos
28-12-04, 18:20
Originally posted by mark-c-@Dec 28 2004, 18:06
ps sorry for hijacking your thread marine,hope you dont mind too much,perc owners seems to be over around 4 or 5 threads at the moment :rolleyes:

Mark
Percs RULE ! :D :P

:thumbsup:

Stuart

>>Marine<<
28-12-04, 18:23
Hi Marc

No prob

Upgrading to 250w for the 120 2x150 was £80

Only difference i'v been told is slightly quicker growth on the 250's

Plus the electric bill ;)

Joe

newbee
28-12-04, 19:24
Hi marine

Where did you get your perc from? because my LFS shop said the would not be able to upgrade the lights.

:thanx:

Mart

kaos
28-12-04, 21:39
Originally posted by newbee@Dec 28 2004, 19:36
Hi marine

Where did you get your perc from? because my LFS shop said the would not be able to upgrade the lights.

:thanx:

Mart
The lights can easily be upgraded, it just needs to be specified when your LFS places the order with Aqua-Medic.

HTH

Stuart :D

>>Marine<<
28-12-04, 22:37
The lights can easily be upgraded, it just needs to be specified when your LFS places the order with Aqua-Medic

Have to agree with Stuart....LFS may need to phone A/Medic...but it CAN be done

HI Peachys....Sorry missed you again....didn't you know....GREEN is this years colour... :D

Joe

>>Marine<<
28-12-04, 23:05
UPDATE...

Hi all

Algae bloom finally cleared up..Whoopy !!!

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%202.JPG

Left side

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%20left.JPG

Right side

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%20right.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Tank%204.JPG

Added 1 Blue tang....1 Kole tang...small ones...were quite nervous for a few days

Few days later...3 cleaner shrimps...1 cleaner wrasse added..WHOOPIE..tank came ALIVE....All fish out and swimming....seems the cleaner wrasse was the missing link

I know !!!!..probably stocked a bit too fast...we will see ;)

Joe

mark-c-
29-12-04, 17:42
looking good Joe

another lighting question-

while speaking to my LFS today about lighting tmc has a 50k 150w rating bulb on p87 of latest marine world,cant really upgrade my 150 to 250w as you are supposed to do it when you order and its lying in box upstairs atm,its RRP is £58 what do you think i should do?got 3 options
1,buy this bulb
2,sell my new 150w halide and buy another halide
or
3just keep what i have

sorry so many lighting questions lately

Mark

peachys
29-12-04, 17:58
very nice joe :thumbsup:

tank looks spotless! :D

>>Marine<<
29-12-04, 18:07
Hi Marc

1,buy this bulb

Sorry, dont have the knowledge to answer this one

2,sell my new 150w halide and buy another halide

Would be a big price difference...is it worth the extra cost

3just keep what i have

Cant see any disadvantages of this..apart from slightly slower growth on hard corals
Do you want quicker growth ....considering the size of the 90 ??

If its mainly for fragging then maybe its worth the cost...Plus, dont forget the extra electric !!

Perhaps one of the guys with a 90 can be more helpfull

Joe

mark-c-
29-12-04, 18:19
Thanks Joe

mainly for frags

have posted question in reefs,think im just confusing myself :huh:

:thumbsup:

Mark

>>Marine<<
29-12-04, 22:15
Hi all

Update...

Just fitted an old light unit up with a new blue actinic tube

Got it just sitting on the front bracebar.....pushed the top cover to the front

Thought it would make a good night light...temporary of course !! ;)

Actually it looks quite good...me thinks ??

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Actinic%201.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Actinic%202.JPG

Joe

peachys
30-12-04, 17:45
ah actinic shot! very nice! i tried to get a pic like that but mine looked pants!!!!! :lol:

>>Marine<<
30-12-04, 18:14
Hi all

Forgot to tell you !!

Got up christmas eve morning....sitting there with the missus looking at the tank...as you do !!

Out of nowhere, she says..." I think the tank needs to be moved...its not right there "

" WHAT...!!! " I said...then quickly remembering , it took me 2 months to persuade her we needed a Perc 120 rather than the 90 (no offence)....I said " Yes dear ..no prob...Gulp !!!

Sat down again...and started to forward plan, How ??.....As you do !!!

Went to Asda and bought 4 ...I think they are about 20 gall round buckets.....Only £5 each

Now, remembering i have no corals in there yet

Attached a hose to the bottom right hand pump ...and syphoned out 50% of the water

Pulled out the 2 plugs for the extension leads

Syphoned down to about 25 % of water level left

The very SLOWLY...walked it across the other side of the room, and put in position....( Wood flooring )

Then with a bucket...poured the water into the back sump..less stressfull for the fish

Plugged in the 2 plugs.....FINISHED....PHEW !!!

Took just over 1 HOUR....Could not believe how easy it was

:cheers:

Then the bad news !!!

Took over 3 hours to find the joists in the ceiling to fit my piece of wood for the M/H

For some strange reason...the joists decided to change direction !!!...no wonder I couldn't them....and the ceiling looks like its got woodworm

Good job I used a very fine drill bit

Hope you find this of interest !!!! :wacko:

:D

Joe

Guichard
02-01-05, 17:19
Joe / Peachys / any other perc owners,

How long are the cables that are supplied with the percs halide lighting. I am getting a perc 90 shortly but am wondering what to attach the halide cables to (I live in an oldish house with very tall ceilings. Another option is to put a shelf in and suspend the light from that. Whatever I choose also needs to be pleasing to the eye as my wife thinks suspended lights are very 1970's.

Thanks to both of you for the pictures. My wife has gone from ice cold - cool - neutral to possibly even luke warm due to the photographs of silver percs on UR. Please keep posting.

Cheers

Rob

Smart82
02-01-05, 17:38
Hi Guichard, With my Silver Perc i have silver arcadia brackets which you drill to the wall, they arch over, very nice, and then the Halide unit hangs of them instead from the ceiling, they are brilliant if you want halides to hang but not from the ceiling.

Martin

Guichard
02-01-05, 17:54
Martin,

Cheers for the reply. Have you got a photograph of your brackets installed?

Regards

Rob

scar
02-01-05, 21:50
rob
got mine from wickes diy they cost me £4.99 each they only come in white but i painted them in silver feel free to have a look theres pictures posted up on the photography page on this forum
:thanx: nick

mark-c-
02-01-05, 21:59
Hi There

just want to add i got a perc 90 delivered and came with the ocean light,aquamedic are doiong the perc with these lights instead,not sure when the change was but another person from ur got that light 2 as thought they had made a mistake,same 150w halide etc also same light they use on the chromis.if you do a search on aquamedic chromis tanks on this forum simon has a nice picture of his light hanging from brackets.

HTH

Mark

>>Marine<<
03-01-05, 00:47
Hi Rob

The lenght of the cables are 84 inches

Whatever I choose also needs to be pleasing to the eye as my wife thinks suspended lights are very 1970's

Funny...my wife said exactly the same thing before i bought mine :D

Now its up and running...she says it actually looks very modern, and likes it ??

Can we ever win !!! :wacko: :D

Joe

>>Marine<<
03-01-05, 18:51
UPDATE....

Tank is settling down nicely now

Got a slight touch of red algae on the sand...due to lack of flow i think

Purchased an Aquamedic Auto Top up unit

Time to consider a Stream...although i would have prefered to keep the inside of the tank empty

Considered larger circulation pumps...but not sure if it will cure the problem...any thoughts ??

Some Pics

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0002%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0001%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0004%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0009%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0010%20(Small).JPG

Joe

kaos
03-01-05, 19:06
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Jan 3 2005, 19:03
UPDATE....

Tank is settling down nicely now

Got a slight touch of red algae on the sand...due to lack of flow i think

Time to consider a Stream...although i would have prefered to keep the inside of the tank empty

Considered larger circulation pumps...but not sure if it will cure the problem...any thoughts ??

Some Pics

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0002%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0001%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0004%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0009%20(Small).JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0010%20(Small).JPG

Joe
How the hell have you managed to keep the inside of your cabinet so tidy and wire free looking.? ;) Ill post a pic of mine later :ph34r:

Stuart :D

>>Marine<<
04-01-05, 16:15
How the hell have you managed to keep the inside of your tank so tidy and wire free looking

Its all in the camera work Stuart !! ;)

:thanx:

Joe

kaos
04-01-05, 21:51
I need to play practice my camera skills a bit more then ;)

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/messy%20cabinet.jpg

:blush:

Stuart :D

>>Marine<<
04-01-05, 22:32
Swap you my tidy one for those lovely pieces of equipment :wub:

What is the blue box on the floor ??

Joe

kaos
05-01-05, 18:34
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Jan 4 2005, 22:44
Swap you my tidy one for those lovely pieces of equipment :wub:

What is the blue box on the floor ??

Joe
Its the 'Driver' for the Stream. Ment to have it fixed to the side of the cabinet, Still have to get round to it :blush: You know how it is ;) :lol:

Stuart :D

kaos
06-01-05, 12:24
Joe,

Ment to ask you the other day, now you have your Auto-top up set up. you any idea how much evap your loosing per day ? i noticed on your drum you have marks on it. I have no idea how much i am loosing ! I should have the top up by saturday at the latest ive been told. providing Aqua-Medic aint telling porkys ;) will make my life so much easier :)

Thanks

Stuart :D

scar
06-01-05, 17:15
stuart
my evaporation rate is 5ltrs a day i run this amount off per day from my ro unit btw its a perc bow front

>>Marine<<
06-01-05, 22:45
Hi Stuart

Evaporation is about tha same as Scar's...only mine is 1 gall...Hee ! Hee !!!

Joe

scar
07-01-05, 14:29
joe
must be about right then cos your tank holds slightly more water than mine acording to am
nick

kitenski
07-01-05, 16:26
5 litres a day!!! Blimey, I was manually adding either 1.5 or 3l a day before I got my auto top up and never had an issue.

I've just filled my 25l bucket an inch off the top now I have an auto top up just to see how long it will last ;)

cheers,

greg

>>Marine<<
09-01-05, 17:41
Hi all

Time to consider a Stream...although i would have prefered to keep the inside of the tank empty

Considered larger circulation pumps...but not sure if it will cure the problem...any thoughts ??

Any more thoughts on this one...???

Joe

scar
09-01-05, 19:11
hi joe
What about a stream in a corner build your rockwork up where its going to go then buy a stream decor rock to hide the pump :thumbsup:
nick

john27
09-01-05, 19:19
Hi Joe,
Why dont you fit a closed loop on it with a large pump.

John..

>>Marine<<
09-01-05, 22:14
Scar...John....Thanx for your thoughts

Got me thinking now !!...and thats saying something !!!!!

Joe

kitenski
09-01-05, 22:34
My missus said my Tunze 6080 looked "too big" on day one and she has never mentioned it since! It would be very easy to hide in one of those LR covers though....

scar
09-01-05, 23:04
I think thats the way ill go when i get my stream hide it in the decor rock because ive got the uv pump on the other side until i figure out a better place to put it i did put the pump in the recirculation chamber but i couldnt run it with the prefilter and it kept getting full of crap
nick

scar
09-01-05, 23:12
hi all
here is a question do any of us perc owners run a uv on their systems if so can you tell me where you have placed the uv unit and also where you have placed the pump or powerhead that runs it? your info will be of much help to me because my powerhead sits in the tank and my 30w uv unit sits on the raster board then returns to the tank i am also going to rig up an ozoniser to the skimmer and then i might discard my uv altogether and just run ozone do any of you run an ozoniser? if so what model did you purchase? and do you run a uv in tandem with it?
:thanx: nick

>>Marine<<
16-01-05, 01:36
UPDATE


Hi all

WARNING !!!!!

Got up this morning and noticed that my favorite Percula clown was not swimming with his mate

Looked everywhere for her...even stripped out the rock...no sign

Has he jumped ???...looked in the sump...bio-balls...skimmer compartment...floor...NOTHING !!

Oh well another one of lifes mysteries... :angry: :angry:

Then later in the day, i noticed that the skimmer was hardly producing any bubbles...
:o Yep!! you got it !!!

Stripped down the pump for the skimmer.....and there she was :angry: :(

For some reason she must have jumped the combs, and got into the skimmer compartment...then sucked into the pump

On hindsight, i have always looked at the combs and thought...Mmmm...I wonder ??
But because this has not happened to anyone esle, I did not really think of it as a big problem

So !!...a WARNING to all...BEWARE !!!!!!

Possible Temporary answer...???
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0016%20(Small).JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/combs1%20(Small).JPG

Oh...and as i stripped the rock out...I removed my Kole tang and took him back to the shop...as he started to chase the Algae blennie. May sound cruel..but i do like a tank in perfect harmony...And a bully in the tank i find stressfull...Sorry !!

Joe

Stevielad
16-01-05, 20:53
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Jan 16 2005, 01:36
UPDATE


Hi all

WARNING !!!!!

Got up this morning and noticed that my favorite Percula clown was not swimming with his mate

Looked everywhere for her...even stripped out the rock...no sign

Has he jumped ???...looked in the sump...bio-balls...skimmer compartment...floor...NOTHING !!

Oh well another one of lifes mysteries... :angry: :angry:

Then later in the day, i noticed that the skimmer was hardly producing any bubbles...
:o Yep!! you got it !!!

Stripped down the pump for the skimmer.....and there she was :angry: :(

For some reason she must have jumped the combs, and got into the skimmer compartment...then sucked into the pump

On hindsight, i have always looked at the combs and thought...Mmmm...I wonder ??
But because this has not happened to anyone esle, I did not really think of it as a big problem

So !!...a WARNING to all...BEWARE !!!!!!

Possible Temporary answer...???
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/DCP_0016%20(Small).JPG

Oh...and as i stripped the rock out...I removed my Kole tang and took him back to the shop...as he started to chase the Algae blennie. May sound cruel..but i do like a tank in perfect harmony...And a bully in the tank i find stressfull...Sorry !!

Joe
Bummer about your clown :(

Right decision about the tang though - not at all cruel - cruel would have been leaving him in to bully the others!

Reefer Madness
17-01-05, 16:18
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Nov 11 2004, 22:26
The only Mods iv done so far is
1 Put a piece of coarse sponge between the second comb and skimmer, to cut down the water noise slightly....as advised :)


Hello Joe,
i will be setting up a Perc 90 in the next few weeks and i was just wondering where you got the corse sponge from to help cut down on the noise any help would be appreciated,

:thanx:

Peter.

P.S. nice tank :thumbsup:

>>Marine<<
17-01-05, 18:28
Hi Peter

Thanx !!

I got mine from the lfs...I believe the sponge is from the pond section

Look forward to updates :thumbsup:

Joe

Reefer Madness
17-01-05, 19:29
Originally posted by >>Marine<<@Jan 17 2005, 18:28
Hi Peter

Thanx !!

I got mine from the lfs...I believe the sponge is from the pond section

Look forward to updates :thumbsup:

Joe
Much appreciated Joe, will keep an eye out next time i am down at Essential,

:cheers:

Peter.