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james141
09-12-05, 13:04
Hi All,

I thought I would start a thread on my progress and keep it updated:

Equipment I have so far:

Juwel Trigon 350 tank and stand
1 x Seio 1500 powerhead
1 x Prizm Deluxe protien skimmer
20 KG of live rock
30Lb Aguamax sugar sand
Juwel heater 300w
Juwel 1000 powerhead
Std T8 Lighting :(

The salt I am using is TMC Marine Pro.

So far I have added the water and sand, mixed up the salt water and added the live rock

I am currently getting the following readings from my tank as it begins cycleing:


PH - 8.1
Ammonia - 0.3 ppm
Nitrite - 0 ppm
Nitrate 5 ppm
Temp 79 F
SG - 1.026

ickypimp
09-12-05, 16:34
SG is a bit high... i would bring it down to 1.023-1.024...

~Tony~
09-12-05, 16:44
Why do you say it is a bit high?
NSW is 35 ppt Salinity which is normally taken as 1.026 SG (depending on the index, reference, and current temperatures)

JasandJules
09-12-05, 16:47
I would say the SG is spot on. TBH I tend to run my tanks at 1.025 to allow it to increase due to evap....

Tiggsy
09-12-05, 16:48
Originally posted by JasandJules@Dec 9 2005, 16:47
I would say the SG is spot on. TBH I tend to run my tanks at 1.025 to allow it to increase due to evap....
yep- exactly the same.

james141
09-12-05, 16:50
Originally posted by JasandJules@Dec 9 2005, 16:47
I would say the SG is spot on. TBH I tend to run my tanks at 1.025 to allow it to increase due to evap....
I will probably bring it down slightly over time as it is on the high side of 1.026 probably 1.0265

The wierd thing was I had it spot on at about 1.0255 but then I added my LR and it jumped to where it is now :(

james141
10-12-05, 23:20
Tank Stats as of 10/12/05 :D

Live rock added (8/12/05)

dirk053
11-12-05, 00:58
Hi James

Just remember that stability is more important than text book readings



:thumbsup:

james141
11-12-05, 10:48
Originally posted by hamagogo@Dec 11 2005, 00:58
Hi James

Just remember that stability is more important than text book readings



:thumbsup:
Thanks I will keep that in mind.

I have just re aquascaped it is basically a corner chape with a post in the middle and a cave/over hang. Hopefully getting another 20KG soon so it should get better!

james141
11-12-05, 10:52
Another hopefully showing the cave

firefish
11-12-05, 10:55
looking good,all i would suggest is that your aquascape be moved slightly away from te glass,that way you can gain access everywhere,also the fish are more likely to swim around and through the rock work :thumbsup:

regards
jase

dirk053
11-12-05, 12:18
Are you thinking of upgrading your lighting ??
:thumbsup:

james141
11-12-05, 16:04
Originally posted by hamagogo@Dec 11 2005, 12:18
Are you thinking of upgrading your lighting ??
:thumbsup:
Definatly :)

Thinking of the arcadia I bar, it is a replacement for the existing lighting bar but with T5's

I would ideally like to got Halide but I dont want to hang it from the roof and I dont like the way it ligts the whole room up so the I bar is ideal.

james141
11-12-05, 23:10
Update:

Added another Seio 1500 powerhead today :)
I also ditched the crappy Juwel 300W heater and went for a Fluval 300w it looks like a much better piece of kit and hopefullt it will keep the temp more stable aparently it has a digital thermostat and a pulsing system :D

james141
23-12-05, 16:00
Originally posted by james141@Dec 11 2005, 23:10
Update:

Added another Seio 1500 powerhead today :)
I also ditched the crappy Juwel 300W heater and went for a Fluval 300w it looks like a much better piece of kit and hopefullt it will keep the temp more stable aparently it has a digital thermostat and a pulsing system :D
Just a bit of an update:

Got 2x Perc Clowns now :)

and 2x Mollies (my GF wont let me get rid of them :()

I will post some pics soon :D

james141
02-01-06, 11:46
Another update:

Now have:

Critters:

2 x Perc Clowns
2 x Mollies
3 x Humbugs
1 x Convict Golly
1 x Long Spined Black Sea Urchin
2 x Tiger Snails
7 x Turbo Snails
2 x Pepermint Shrimps
20Kg of high quality Fiji LR (more to come soon)
Equipment:

Prizm Deluxe Skimmer :(
2 x Seio 1500 Powerheads
1 x Aquamedic Internal Power Filter 1000 running carbon and phosban
1 x Aquamedic Auto Top Up
1 x 300W Fluval heater
2 x 39W Full Spectrum Marine Aquamedic T5's
2 x 24W? Arcadia T5's
10 x Blue LED moonlight Kit
3 x Lighting Timers
2 x 15W atinics T8's (currently small Ibar is broken :( if anyone has a this going spare (55cm) let me know!!!!!)

I know I have been stocking a bit quick but they are only small fish (they will grow I know) All seems to be running fine, all critters seem happy and content :)

I will hold off for a bit now though!!!

Any coments much appreciated!

james141
02-01-06, 11:52
Another Pic :D

james141
06-01-06, 13:40
Going for a sump todards the end of the month!! :)

Also and Aquatronica, another 20Kg of LR and a deltec skimmer :thumbsup:

benribbans
06-01-06, 13:45
You have too much money! :lol:

I think the marine tank is a constant drain on everyones wallet tho, right? lol

Good luck and looks like a plan :thumbsup:

ben

james141
06-01-06, 13:47
Originally posted by benribbans@Jan 6 2006, 13:45
You have too much money! :lol:

I think the marine tank is a constant drain on everyones wallet tho, right? lol

Good luck and looks like a plan :thumbsup:

ben
If only!! :)

It is killing me, skint now till pay day :(

Hopefully after next month it will calm down a bit!!

GaryM
07-01-06, 21:13
Hopefully after next month it will calm down a bit!!

I doubt it.... :lol:

looking good though, you should add a fluidising reactor so as you can run a P04 absorber to keep p04 in check and help keep algae under control.

james141
09-01-06, 09:48
Originally posted by GaryM@Jan 7 2006, 21:13
Hopefully after next month it will calm down a bit!!

I doubt it.... :lol:

looking good though, you should add a fluidising reactor so as you can run a P04 absorber to keep p04 in check and help keep algae under control.
Yeah, gonna get on I think. I have managed to get my PO4 down to 0 without one :)

Running phosban in my 1000LHP aquamedic powerhead/filter!!

james141
16-01-06, 12:15
New Pink Tip Enenome

james141
16-01-06, 12:16
Sea Urchin:

james141
16-01-06, 12:17
Humbugs and cleaner shrimps

james141
16-01-06, 12:18
Left Side:

james141
16-01-06, 12:19
Bringing the critter list to:

2 x Perc Clowns
2 x Mollies
3 x Humbugs
1 x Convict Golly
1 x Long Spined Black Sea Urchin
2 x Tiger Snails
7 x Turbo Snails
2 x Pepermint Shrimps
2 x Skunk Cleaner Shrimps
1 x Pink Tip Anenome
1 x Red Starfish
1 x Pulsing Xenia

Hopefully going with the sump design as above in the next few weeks! plus another 20Kg or LR!

hutchy
19-01-06, 15:58
James

looking good ;) howz the nem still good i know people say you should wait to add a nem but i was considering one b4 i add any more corals so if it moves about it doesnt do much harm, has yours moved at all?

any pics of the starfish, do you know its proper name :thumbsup:

james141
20-01-06, 09:05
Originally posted by hutchy@Jan 19 2006, 15:58
James

looking good ;) howz the nem still good i know people say you should wait to add a nem but i was considering one b4 i add any more corals so if it moves about it doesnt do much harm, has yours moved at all?

any pics of the starfish, do you know its proper name :thumbsup:
Hiya,

Gonna add some more pics over the weekend :)

He hasnt really moved, I helped him to a place I wanted him to be and thought would be best for him and so far he has satyed put :) I have been feeding him daily so hopefully he will get settled :thumbsup:

james141
21-01-06, 19:50
Another Update :)

The nem is fine touch wood, added another 20Kg of LR and re aquascaped looks good now:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/photopost/data/500/5824IMGP3052.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/photopost/data/500/5824IMGP3054.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/photopost/data/500/5824IMGP3055.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/photopost/data/500/5824IMGP3058.JPG

Also got a red scooter blenny and a mandarin, just been reading that they are hard to feed :( note to self, research before buying. I am going to cultivate some pods for them and adding the sump should help :) I will keep an eye on them and if they get too thin I will take them back and hope the shop can rehabilitate them.

Blenny:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/photopost/data/500/5824IMGP3057.JPG

Cant get a pic of the mandarin at the mo he is hiding, will upload soon :thumbsup:

djb1971
21-01-06, 19:52
Coming along nicely james :thumbsup:

You could try dropping some enriched brineshrimp in front of the mandarin and it might start taking it. Once it easily accepts frozen food you're half way there :thumbsup:

hutchy
21-01-06, 19:54
good work looks much better now the extra rock is in :thumbsup:

you could get another 20 kg in there :P

james141
21-01-06, 20:03
Cheers Guys!! :thumbsup:

you could get another 20 kg in there

That pic is a bit decieving, the curv of the tank makes the rocks look smaller (see attatched taken streight on!


You could try dropping some enriched brineshrimp in front of the mandarin and it might start taking it. Once it easily accepts frozen food you're half way there

Yeah going to try that at feeding time tonight :thumbsup:

I could kick myself for buying him :( but he is so cute impulse buying is a terrible thing :(

djb1971
21-01-06, 20:04
They are great fish, it will survive if you put the time and effort in to begin with :thumbsup:

Tiggsy
21-01-06, 20:08
A scotter AND a mandarin will wipe out pods pretty fast in an establish tank that size, let alone a new one.

I would return one now and see if you can get the other on frozen, if it doesnt take to it ASAP i'd return that as well.

I tried to get my mandarin on frozen as it went in a new tank - found it impossible and had to build a fuge which was seeded with multiple pod cultures.

james141
21-01-06, 20:13
Originally posted by Tiggsy@Jan 21 2006, 20:08
A scotter AND a mandarin will wipe out pods pretty fast in an establish tank that size, let alone a new one.

I would return one now and see if you can get the other on frozen, if it doesnt take to it ASAP i'd return that as well.

I tried to get my mandarin on frozen as it went in a new tank - found it impossible and had to build a fuge which was seeded with multiple pod cultures.
The shop I got him from is not open on sundays and I cant get there in the week :( so it will have to be next weekend

I am going to do what jasandjules were saying by cultivating pods in a couple of coke bottles and add half of them to the tank twice weekly, hopefully that will keep them fed!

hutchy
21-01-06, 20:23
Originally posted by james141@Jan 21 2006, 20:03
Cheers Guys!! :thumbsup:

you could get another 20 kg in thereĀ*

That pic is a bit decieving, the curv of the tank makes the rocks look smaller (see attatched taken streight on!


You could try dropping some enriched brineshrimp in front of the mandarin and it might start taking it. Once it easily accepts frozen food you're half way thereĀ*

Yeah going to try that at feeding time tonight :thumbsup:

I could kick myself for buying him :( but he is so cute impulse buying is a terrible thing :(
totally see the difference now spot on :thumbsup:

james141
21-01-06, 20:39
Just but a block of brine shrimp in for the other tank mates and the manderin showed an intrest :) but then I tried to target feed him and the blenny and they were having none of it :(

Did have a bristlworm fest around the rock they were neer tho ;)

james141
21-02-06, 11:19
Added a toadstool over the weekend and a Yellow Indian Angel :)

Bringing the critter list to:

2 x Perc Clowns
2 x Mollies
3 x Humbugs
1 x Convict Golly
1 x Yellow Indian Angel
1 x Long Spined Black Sea Urchin
2 x Tiger Snails
7 x Turbo Snails
2 x Pepermint Shrimps
2 x Skunk Cleaner Shrimps
1 x Pink Tip Anenome
1 x Red Starfish
1 x Maldive Starfish
1 x Pulsing Xenia
1 x Toadstool

Edit: Pics to follow when the upload works!!

james141
19-03-06, 21:14
Latest Pic:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/james1411/DSC_1743.jpg

djb1971
19-03-06, 21:28
I can see your new crab on its perch:D

james141
26-03-06, 21:20
Lol yeah, he is still there now! he must like it there!!

fishflop
11-06-06, 06:28
Did your hair alge go away on it's own???

james141
21-06-06, 23:08
Yeah eventually, just run lots of phosphate remover. ALso my UV and ozone seems to have helped.

Mike Webb
13-10-06, 16:03
Is your sump in the cabinet below the tank?

Great looking reef btw:)

james141
26-10-06, 10:21
No my Trigon didnt have a sump :(

One of the reasons I upgraded: http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=192398

Mike Webb
26-10-06, 11:36
I assume that you decided that it was less hassle to upgrade your tank instead of drilling the trigon and adding weirs etc...?

That's the position i'm in at the moment, I am also looking at a tank from D&D, I could drill the trigon and buy a sump but reckon with all the additional pipework, drilling bits, sump pumps and sump, it's going to be cosing me the best part of £500....

So I might be better off in the longrun upgrading!

Social D
26-10-06, 11:46
they arent worth it

Mike Webb
26-10-06, 12:16
what are you referring to mate?

Social D
26-10-06, 23:45
In a nutshell the only reason ive got a trigon is it's biggest tank i can fit in my frontroom without getting rid of my other halfs furniture, something i can live without, she cant.
500 seems ott to have a tank drilled i assume that includes the sump even so thats a rip
You could sell the trigon and get some cash for it and if you have room for a bigger tank then yes i would deffo not go for the trigon as they are a pain to set up, but it depends on what you want in the tank, a sump is a must imo, but you dont have to have one.
by many standards most trigons only contain fish and a few softies, then the need for a sump isnt needed as much, ive gone for a 30 gallon sump with cheato beacuase ive filled the tank with sps, this is something they need and i felt the need for it.
If you do decide to keep it they can still look great, the shape does have a natural look to it, and i'm over the moon by the way mine is taking shape,
But if i'm really honest i have wasted loads of money to get my tank looking the way it does, mainly on lights for it.
I know you're in a catch 22 the other half gave you the tank etc .... but if you can fit a 6 footer in the house then i would sell the trigon.

fras
27-10-06, 09:11
£500 is overestimated a little, should be no more than 200 even with high prices.
drill bit costs 15, piping & glue etc 50-70, tank 50 max from a good lfs, sump pump 30-40 on this forum or 60 new, that's it.

james141
27-10-06, 10:47
To be honest the 2 main reasons I upgraded were 1.) to hide all the equipment, it was everywhere and 2.) it was difficult looking through the curved glass on the trigon and a PITA to take any decent pictures and keep clean.