Bangii Sexing

[Johnymajors]

Just one to get the new section off to a good start

I have been looking to breed fish for a while and with upcoming tank changes, i will be wanting to setup a little breeding tank.

So .... Im looking to start with Bangii's, but have never seen a mated pair for sale, so can anyone tell me a foolproof (being able to tell even when they keep moving) way of how to tell a male from female.

And can the fry be raised in the same tank as the adults or do they become grub.

Cheers

[markey]

am watching this one with interest as this is something i am planning ,i was on buying a big group and hoping they was not all one sex :wacko:

[pipsreef]

Hi
I have just managed to get a pair of Bangais,Not from the same shop I had a fairly large one in my sump (Mangrove forest in the conservatory)and while cruising the shops saw another this I bought and placed in the tank but they virtually ignored each other,so I put him/her in my main tank. and went on the look out for another, which I found.
Once this fish went in they took to each other and would not leave each other alone.
Its now two weeks since I added this fish and I have noticed one of them is not eating, Its chin has dropped And I am assuming it is the male with a mouth full of eggs another 19 odd days and we will find out.
Both fish looked Identical untill he took the eggs.so if anyone does know how to sex them at a glance I would be very interested.

I believe the best way with these fish is to buy the parents from different shops or Aquarists who are lucky enough to have bred them.
There is a lot of inbreeding in Bangais and this may be one of the reasons why they never seem to last. I have lost count of the ones that have just dissapeared in my main tank.
I will keep you all informed on what happens with these two and will post some photo's later this week.


http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/emp1.jpg

Managed to get this snap, Every time I go near the sump they both dive for cover. The male is on the right.

Happy Reefkeeping :D

Andy

[Kev s]

I've been trying to find a way of sexing them but as previously mentioned the best way is to introduce 2 and if they fight pull one out if they don't then they will pair up.

Reading over on rc (some long term breeders posts) there doesn't appear to be a reliable way of sexing them. Its very hit and miss.

Good luck with them!!

Kev

[Reefworks]

Mature males are much heavier around the jaw and gills with thicker black markings.
These are an easy fish to raise so long as you provide the right environment for the parents and good nutrition for the youngsters.
hth

[Johnymajors]

Well ..... hit and miss it is then :blink:

can the fry be raised alongside the adults (in their own tank no ther fish) or is it best to remove them to a seperate container?

[djb1971]

Originally posted by Reefworks@Jan 17 2006, 13:11
Mature males are much heavier around the jaw and gills with thicker black markings.
These are an easy fish to raise so long as you provide the right environment for the parents and good nutrition for the youngsters.
hth
Ditto


But you can still get an arthur that ends up being a marthur :wacko:

[Kevin Douglas]

can the fry be raised alongside the adults (in their own tank no ther fish) or is it best to remove them to a seperate container?

The parents will eat the babies once they are free swimming. If you have an anemone the babies will naturally go in that for protection. It seems that the babies are immune to the stings but the adults are not. Their main protection in the wild is the amongst the spine on the black sea urchins.

Atb

[Johnymajors]

So on the risk of sounding dumb ..... :blush:

If the adults and fry were in the same tank along with a couple of home made urchins, the ol milliput and tooth pick design, would this suffice or better to seperate them completely. I dont have agreat deal of space to play with, so a single breeding tank would be nice, but i want then best outcome so another tank can be an option :blink:

[fras]

The best way of sexing them is at an LFS with a tank full so you can make comparisons, the males have a longer second dorsal fin. I hope it's ok to post this pic here (it's from UR fish section), you can see clearly that the top fish is the male.

http://www.reefhaven.co.uk/fish/bangaii_cardinal.jpg

[Johnymajors]

Thats what i needed :thumbsup: .... should be able to tell in future with any luck

Mature males are much heavier around the jaw and gills with thicker black markings

Can see what you mean in the photo

Cheers ppl :cheers: