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Juppy
29-07-06, 16:07
I have been struggling for months to get colour back into some of my acro colonies. They didnt bleach or anything just went brown. The worst hit have stn'ed from the base up to the bottom of the branches and now have zero polyp extension.Also growth has stopped. I started seeing blotchy patches on some of them too. I tried everything, water is as near perfect as it has ever been, relamped my t5's, started doing massive water changes regularly. Then i started doubting my faith in the t5's.

So i decided to pull a couple of colonies to have a better look. Around the base of the worst colonies were bundles of tiny brown eggs, when i say tiny i mean you need tank light to see them and very good eyes a couple of inches away. S**t!!!! took some tank water out and swished the coral very forcefully. Looked in the bucket to find 5 flatworms swimming round!! these arent the red planeria (SP?) but perfectly clear large flatworms. You would never notice them on a coral in your tank unless you pulled it, perfectly invisible.

Today tried to get som tmcpcc but had to settle for lugols for now as couldnt get hold of the coral cure (which apparently kills these bas&&rds! Made a stongish dip and left a couple of the bad corals for 10 minutes or so. Swished the corals and put them back in the aquarium. Again loads of flatworms swimming around in the lugols solution like they were taking a relaxing bath! The stuff doesnt touch them, just loosens them a LITTLE!. On top of that the four colonies i treated look well rough and i had to bin another one as it was so badly affected by the worms. Looking on rc it seems that if i am to have any chance of getting rid of these i am going to have to chip all corals from the rocks and dip them in tmcpcc once a week for 4-5 weeks!!! i still have some seemingly unaffected corals but i am sure that it is only a matter of time before these get hit. Unless i can break the cycle.

Looking at the damage i wouldnt be surprised if a large % of the issues most of us have a put down to water quality or other environmental issues are actually down to these or the equally nasty red bugs. I have onlly seen a couple of posts on the uk boards about AEFW or red bugs, we get our aquacultured corals from the same sites as the yanks do but their hobby is riddled with them. It is impossible that more of us dont have them, i think a lot of people do but just havent noticed them. I would urge anybody with sps issues or odd polyp behaviour to have a good look around the base of the corals.

Am seriously contemplating jacking this in after the last couple of days, am going to continue to dip IF these corals pull through and try the tmcpcc also but if i end up losing most of the corals that i have grown for the last couple of years i will be putting my system on ebay (sps and aefw free) Really hacked off! Would appreciate any advice anybody may have.

BTW FWE does not touch these unless you use 5-6 times the recommended dose over several weeks and i have seen what a single dose has done to some tanks on here.

cheers
Juppy

AntsReef
29-07-06, 16:57
You have my sympathy:(
I will have a close look at some of my SPS that aren't doing as well as I think they should be.
It's strange because I spend a fair bit of time on ReefCentral where a large proportion of posts relate to the problem of red bugs/AEFW and have often wondered why we don't seem to suffer from them in this country. Well I think you're right.I think we probably do and don't realise it:confused:
best of luck,
Anthony

steviejasp
07-08-06, 18:11
They most certainly are.....
Look what ive found on one of my sickly looking acros.
Now what am i to do?:mad:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q1/flatworm1.jpg
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q1/flatworm2.jpg

and the eggs

jacksok
07-08-06, 22:54
Bummer! Can I ask if you've shared frags with anyone recently. If so it would be good to let them know what you are experiencing and what to look out for.

My only equivalent experience has been with zoo eating nudis. Wasn't nice. Took perserverence with repeated dips before they were cleared. Problem was while nudis would succomb to the dip their eggs didn't. So you had to keep at it and wear the *******s down. May be the same in this case...

Keith

mem
07-08-06, 23:26
Hi Juppy
:eek: sorry to hear about your flat worm infection, I too have been suffering with the dam things, I have had good succses with fresh water dips, RO water at room temp, dip and swish coral approx 3 sec, so far so good , fresh water seems to kill them instantly, any corals I cannot remove I baste with a turkey baster, pumps of and catch the dam things with a net, any I miss my spotted hawk gets, he now waits near the baster to catch the b*****d's

:) Mem

steviejasp
08-08-06, 14:36
Luckily i havent shared frags with anybody yet:)
My stock has all come from a couple of sponsors of this booard and 1 local lfs who purchases his stuff from the usual importer;)
I had a slight problem with a couple of small colonies that had bleached, i think from 29 degrees C water temp ( ive since turned my chiller down to 26 degress and they are colouring back up) But as the tops and growing ends have coloured up the undersides and bases have all stayed white and are definately bare skeleton. There i noticed the tiny patches of brown eggs, took one colony out and rinsed it in a bowl and about five 3mm flatworms and many tiny ones were found in the bowl.
The unafected (by heat) colonies all seem to be fine at the moment.
Im going to try to get some tropic marin pro coral cure or lugols and give them a few dips to see what happens, although reading about these cures on reef central, it all seems to be a waste of time.
Not really sure what to do really.................Frag anyone?