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I picked this up yesterday and i thought i would start a thread about it:D
okay !!! great read :rolleyes:
Filteration system built in the back
pmsl we have one at work hood broke in 5 mins ell, be carefull with it !! but the external balasts are good !!
Where did you get it?
How much?
PM me please....
Greg
Plans for system
I may remove the sponges in one of the back sections and instead use it as a cryptic refugium which should hopefully increase the microlife in my system therefore creating more natural food for my corals
Livestock (LPS Lagoon is my aim)
Mainly colourful yet hardy corals such as
Acanthastreas
Euphyllias
And a few soft corals
Fish
Hopefully a pair of Yashia Hasia Gobies:)
I'll keep you updated as the tank progresses
Thanks for looking
Elliott
ell acans arent as easy as one may think they need plenty of feeding like sun corals but if you know then you should be fine !!
Yeah lol i think the hood is one thing that needs working on:)
The compactness of the lighting is good but like you said the hood is very
flimsy and plasticy
But the rest of the system is perfect IMO:cool: :D
Would have got the new deltec one myself
It is the Deltec (jbj) nanocube 24 gallon deluxe:)
Will,guess i better give the Acans a bit more thought then,wouldn't wanna keep em if there very hard to keep
That looks like a nice bit of kit Elliot. ;)
Has it got fans in the hood?
It is the Deltec (jbj) nanocube 24 gallon deluxe:)
Will,guess i better give the Acans a bit more thought then,wouldn't wanna keep em if there very hard to keep
no they are not veryhard they just need target feeding im not bullying you ;)
It is the Deltec (jbj) nanocube 24 gallon deluxe:)
Will,guess i better give the Acans a bit more thought then,wouldn't wanna keep em if there very hard to keep
I thought the deltec comes with a 75w halide?
I thought they were not avaliable yet?
Did you just order it or is there a secret?
Greg
we have had one at the shop for a good 3 months now if not more
Nah the Deltec comes with the t5 canopy as standard,i might get the VIPER MH when it comes out though:D
How many times a week do acans need feeding?
Nah the Deltec comes with the t5 canopy as standard,i might get the VIPER MH when it comes out though:D
How many times a week do acans need feeding?
the more the better they are like sun corals for it :D
do you have to use a dog whistle on them like sun corals :D
http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183550&highlight=whistle :rolleyes: :D
do you have to use a dog whistle on them like sun corals :D
i prefer the clicker method myself ;)
Elliot I wish you all the best in this project but please please make this one last youve had more setups than the rest of us put together.
Reef bloke
06-08-06, 21:59
That looks the same as an Aqua one nano,i have one knocking about ill have to take a pic of it.Might well set it up after seeing yours.
Nice looking tank that. I'll be watching this one develop
Good luck mate
Chris
Thanks Guys:)
Its kinda cool this is the first tank thread on a D&D cube,im sure there will be loads to follow as they are proper nice little tanks:D
This tank im determined to do things right,hopefully putting all my past mistakes behind me and show that ive learnt from them.
Elliott
Personally I think you should avoid the acans. Lovely corals but I think you might struggle with them in your tank. Keep us posted
Tom http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
Prometheus
07-08-06, 00:06
dude why u keep going for very small systems are you stuck for space ????.
with a bigger system at least it would be more stable, smaller systems are a lot of work :rolleyes: for what you get.
I disagree what has been said about acans, I have both an acanthastrea echinata and a Lordhowensis, they get fed maybe once a month (if they are lucky) and both are doing fine, the echinata is growing especially fast and has gone from 8 polyps to over 20 in about 8 months...
however... they are really agressive corals...REALLY agressive, so if you plan to put them in your tank then i would think hard about where you place them and give them lots of space to grow out ...
I would also think hard about the lighting that the nano cube offers...
acans (in my experience) like a fair bit of light... with 72 watts of PC in a 24 gallon tank i would not put them too low in the tank...
I disagree what has been said about acans, I have both an acanthastrea echinata and a Lordhowensis, they get fed maybe once a month (if they are lucky) and both are doing fine, the echinata is growing especially fast and has gone from 8 polyps to over 20 in about 8 months...
however... they are really agressive corals...REALLY agressive, so if you plan to put them in your tank then i would think hard about where you place them and give them lots of space to grow out ...
I would also think hard about the lighting that the nano cube offers...
acans (in my experience) like a fair bit of light... with 72 watts of PC in a 24 gallon tank i would not put them too low in the tank...
intreasting i found that mine grew like the clappers {all howensis about 5 colonies} but when i reduced the feeding of the tank they all reduced growth rates highly and i was running 400 watt lights :D
I think these tanks are made over in china and re-badged as jbj, boyu, d+d etc depending on the market. The Boyu has been available here for ages.
There's lots of nice jbj's + mods over at NR.com, they obviously have lots of potential. Good luck with it.
the jbj and d & d are the same
d&d are just importing them not making them
At Safe Depth
07-08-06, 21:43
I think Deltec have added a few bits and bobs as well. Including cooling fans and the Viper halide option.
Mine has the built in cooling fans:D
its all sales techniques!
That is the tank I have been using for a couple of years now, only mine is badged as a BOYU. (mines the smaller 45ltr version)
For the compartments at the back I have used them for, from left to right on your picture, 1 - Rubble, 2 - Rubble and auto top up sensors, 3 - Fluval 1 running carbon or Rowa, 4 - Heater.
I added T5's and fans in the lid myself as it didn't come with them.
I had to change the screws that hold on the light protector as they rusted.
The flappy bit of lid at the front has been taken off as condensation built up in the hood due to lack of ventilation through it.
The lid supports are fragile and don't last long.
I am considering taking my hood off and running a suspended halide and wall mounted fan as I have never been 100% happy with the light output I can get from using PC lamps in the hood.
fans come with the units
as far as i know d and d dont touch them the just sell them as they are
mr fis h is exactly right, these boyu tanks have been available for a number of years in the uk.
jbj in their own right are a lighting company.
jbj sourced the tanks from boyu and added their own jbj lights because the ones in the boyu are shite.
d&d havnt done anythingto these tanks other than import them.
all true specs can be found on jbj's website
all mods can be found on nano-reef.com
what i want to know is why would we get bummed for 270quids??? you can give me all the support your lfs and buy british nonsense, but if you do a search, i think there is a german website who'll let you have the tank, stand and insured shipping for £100 less.
considering you have to change the stock pump out straight away because it is inefficient, that £100 saving goes a long way
Jules
What's the URL for the german site?
dont know
if you do a search on the "all-in-one" tanks forum, and then look for uk suppliers etc, it will direct you from there.
obviously, if problems do arise then it will be a tad more difficult than returning it to your LFS but £100 is £100!
I think Deltec have added a few bits and bobs as well. Including cooling fans and the Viper halide option.
err no they have not (added the fans or the viper option... check out the JBJ website}... these tanks are nothing to do with deltec, D&D are impreting them and they ARE straight rebadges of the JBJ tank
I thought you gave up reef keeping Elliot?
How long is this tank going to last then?
See this thread, there is a post from Stuart from D&D about these tanks -
http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186581
I believe the 12g D&D unit is about £140 Which is a reasonable price considering I spent about the same to put mine together from the standard BOYU.
Tank - £60
Ballasts and lights - £70
Fans - £10
Plus various bits and pieces.
I also added an additional powerhead to get a variation and increase in flow (spare one), separate controllers for the fans and heater (£80), and an auto top up system (£40), so probably doubled the above cost.
All prices approximates
At Safe Depth
08-08-06, 14:02
err no they have not (added the fans or the viper option... check out the JBJ website}... these tanks are nothing to do with deltec, D&D are impreting them and they ARE straight rebadges of the JBJ tank
I stand corrected:o
MrFish don't you get lights with fans with the Boyu? It shows them on the website - total cost is £85 with heater etc.
The only difference between the boyu and D&D tanks that I can see is the stronger lights, but then the D&D 12g is £55 more and the 24g £85 more. I'd rather retrofit some lights and save the money or just try with the standard lights. There's lots of nice standard jbj's in america with the same lighting as the boyu.
just imho.
See this thread, there is a post from Stuart from D&D about these tanks -
http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186581
I believe the 12g D&D unit is about £140 Which is a reasonable price considering I spent about the same to put mine together from the standard BOYU.
Tank - £60
Ballasts and lights - £70
Fans - £10
Plus various bits and pieces.
I also added an additional powerhead to get a variation and increase in flow (spare one), separate controllers for the fans and heater (£80), and an auto top up system (£40), so probably doubled the above cost.
All prices approximates
MrFish don't you get lights with fans with the Boyu? It shows them on the website - total cost is £85 with heater etc.
The only difference between the boyu and D&D tanks that I can see is the stronger lights, but then the D&D 12g is £55 more and the 24g £85 more. I'd rather retrofit some lights and save the money or just try with the standard lights. There's lots of nice standard jbj's in america with the same lighting as the boyu.
just imho.
Not the model I bought, its the small one approx 8-10 gallons. The lights that came with it were rubbish (8Watt jobbies) so I changed them, which requires modifying the hood. Although there were two spaces for fans, the fans were not included.
I'm looking at skimmer options at the moment but can't find one to fit with the hood in place.
if it's any help i had a small 8 gallon tank and i fitted a current usa fission under the hood (check link in sig).
Any further progress Elliott?
Just thinking about how too stock the tank and i think i said earlier on about a lagoon kinda tank? well ive decided i would like to try and keep the species of coral and fish i keep in the tank appropriate to this theme (so kinda deeperwater stuff that prefers lower flow and light)
Anyone wanna come up with a list of corals and fish that like those conditions?
Thanks
Elliott
My reason for choosing the d&d or jbl would be who would be quickest to respond if there was a problem?
I think I know which one would jump first :D
Just thinking about how too stock the tank and i think i said earlier on about a lagoon kinda tank? well ive decided i would like to try and keep the species of coral and fish i keep in the tank appropriate to this theme (so kinda deeperwater stuff that prefers lower flow and light)
not sure that makes sense really Elliot - afaik, lagoons are normally pretty shallow, well lit environments - I think you are confusing deepwater and lagoon biotopes slightly.
This site may prove useful! http://www.reefcorner.com/Manual/types_of_reef_tanks.htm
Thanks for that link Clippo,very useful :)
So i guess its more of a lagoon system im going for rather than a deepwater one as that includes both softies and LPS
Thanks
Elliott
yeah - deepwater suggests dendros, sea fans, sun corals etc to me... plus low intensity high K light and strong but well dispersed flow. Possibly lower temperatures but very clean water - also regular heavy feeding with phyto, zooplankton etc. Would be fantastic, but not an easy system to keep - especially in a small tank.
For the lagoon, I'd suggest leathers, caulastrea, xenia, euphyllias, bubbles, maybe zoos and mushrooms too - also some macro algaes. Such a system could have intense 'white' light and moderate flow. I'd suggest that skimming doesn't need to be as heavy as the deepwater system and feeding wouldn't be as complex.
yeah - deepwater suggests dendros, sea fans, sun corals etc to me... plus low intensity high K light and strong but well dispersed flow. Possibly lower temperatures but very clean water - also regular heavy feeding with phyto, zooplankton etc. Would be fantastic, but not an easy system to keep - especially in a small tank.
For the lagoon, I'd suggest leathers, caulastrea, xenia, euphyllias, bubbles, maybe zoos and mushrooms too - also some macro algaes. Such a system could have intense 'white' light and moderate flow. I'd suggest that skimming doesn't need to be as heavy as the deepwater system and feeding wouldn't be as complex.
only thing is in a nano eupys and bubbles may be to aggressive to have much else in there :D:eek:
Can u not stand the same species of euphyllia next to each other???
Can u not stand the same species of euphyllia next to each other???
yes but they can reach upto 4-5 inches away from them so in a nano you wont have much space left for anything else, just be carefull when placing them :D
I might include some different candycane species to as i think they can look really good when u have a few different varieties
I currently have the blue centered one but i would also like a bright green one but i haven't seen one in ages
Hey elliot can you post a picture of your blue centered caulastrea... I quite often see the bright fluoresent green type around the shops down this way if thats any help. I know the guy who provides the shops with the frags :D
Ps I think a nano tank with lots of different candy cane colonies would look very good. Very individual. I think that would def be a far better idea than a nano filled will euphyllia's
Cheers Tom http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
Yeah i really like that Idea:D
So im after as many colour variants as poss
so where you get the tank from?
A friend of a friend of mine works in the industry and he got it for me:D
Elliot,
I wish you'd mentioned that before - I've been looking everywhere for these and the only the reply I get is "septemeber".
Are you going to upgrade the lighting, as the NanoCubes in the US all seem to have at least another PC?
Yeah i rekon i'll get the viper MH when it comes out:D
But i may add another powercompact in the mean time,although i wont be going for high light corals in this system
I going to change the filter system abit
Im gonna do away with one of the sponge sections and instead use it as a cryptic refugium filled with LR rubble and i may change the stock pump
Elliott
not that much of a friend for £250! was that with stand or just cube?
as said check nano-reef and do a search under uk and there is a german company who will import for about 170quids.
the viper has received so many crap reviews.
elliot you will have to change the stock pump as it is insufficient- again refer to nano-reef.
i think thats the prob with all-in-one tanks, especially this one, you pay a premium and before you get started, you have to buy a heater and upgrade the pump, which at best will cost you 30-45 on top of what you just paid for the alleged plug and play tank
Jump and both feet come to mind. Eric
The standard pumps are not adequate but Stuart from D&D in another thread says they have uprated them, but didn't give the figures.
to be fair they retail for £299 plus the stand !!!
at the end of the day if something breaks on the us ones then your buggerd !! no claims but its a big saving i suppose its a case of support your lfs or send money else where again !!
Hi
I actually didn't know they were coming out so soon,especially the deluxe version thats the reason i jumped at it like i did:o oh well nevermind its money well spent IMO as im really pleased with it
Elliott
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