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berns
28-10-06, 23:57
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/zoa wall paper.jpg

bleedmarshall
29-10-06, 00:25
ish............ ive got this on my laptop ATM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3351/xxxaa0.png

Kanni mind who posted it :) Love it though

Scott

arrows
29-10-06, 00:47
you got one with the logo removed, does look better then my effort i must admit.

cl0wn
29-10-06, 00:49
he he, now on works pc as my background!!

nice one berns!!

maestro
29-10-06, 13:16
very nice berns,

these are the ones I picked up yesterday, they didnt look all that colourfull in the shop but I did see potential, they were an orangey brown colour but thats the secret imo, recognising the good zoas under normal 10k lighting or even t8 lighting.



Ive had them under 400watts of 14k and actinic in my 40 gallon tank and this is how they look now, totally different.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/beforezeo 074.jpg

berns
29-10-06, 15:42
very true maestro, a keen eye often sees something not there yet.

berns
29-10-06, 19:48
plenty actinics like yours should make things flouress/glow, im gonna get some 20k lamps for my twin 150w halide, tho my zoa's do look natural they dont glow lol as the twin blue tubes it also has are pretty dull compared to others.

maestro
29-10-06, 19:56
I run 2 x 150 watt 14k with 80 worth of actinic, I use to have blue tubes not pure actinic and although I prefer the blue tubes for the colour they give in the morning and evening after youve turned the halides off the pure actinic bulbs do make the corals glow a little more.

Have a look at the giessemann 21k bulbs, aidyb runs them and they really do make the corals pop.

berns
29-10-06, 20:40
i will thx, my lfs put some 20k over their big soft coral tank and i thought then ill have some of that:D

arrows
29-10-06, 20:43
so are the 21k bulbs the ones to get, looking to replace my bulbs in my giesmann lights but are unsure whats best to get.

berns
29-10-06, 22:43
so are the 21k bulbs the ones to get, looking to replace my bulbs in my giesmann lights but are unsure whats best to get.

i think its personal looks really arrows, different ppl prefer different lamps but recommendations are always worth a look.

heres a descent link with picture of dragon eyes arrows so you know wat to expect
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Eye-Zoo-Live-Coral_W0QQitemZ140046767493QQihZ004QQcategoryZ4630 8QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

arrows
29-10-06, 22:47
stunning and this is with the 21k bulbs, do you have hard corals and how do they fair.

berns
30-10-06, 00:01
stunning and this is with the 21k bulbs, do you have hard corals and how do they fair.

lol thats just a picture i stole, i dont know wat lighting was used but they are the true colour of dragon eyes (as you said you won the ebay frag where they look purple)

arrows
30-10-06, 00:04
oh sorry yes thank you for that.

I will have it on tuesday so i will let you know.

jobr
30-10-06, 07:22
lol thats just a picture i stole, i dont know wat lighting was used but they are the true colour of dragon eyes (as you said you won the ebay frag where they look purple)

You can't steal a picture that doesn't belong to you and post it on UR, was it copyrighted???????????????????????????

simon garratt
30-10-06, 10:45
Agreed. Berns. can you provide a link to the origional please, and if CR'd have you asked permision to use.

Regards

si.

berns
30-10-06, 12:01
its a picture from a usa ebay item so not sure if same rules apply, those that want to protect their ebay images can using some sort of program that either ebay supplies or allows when uploading your own stuff.

clippo
30-10-06, 12:55
what about the wallpaper image? where's that from?

berns
30-10-06, 13:46
wallpaper image is free for all from a reef poster on another reef site set up by zoanthid lovers.

jobr
30-10-06, 14:28
its a picture from a usa ebay item so not sure if same rules apply, those that want to protect their ebay images can using some sort of program that either ebay supplies or allows when uploading your own stuff.

if you are unsure then to protect the site owner the picture should be removed.

clippo
30-10-06, 14:55
wallpaper image is free for all from a reef poster on another reef site set up by zoanthid lovers.

any chance of a direct link?

berns
30-10-06, 17:14
if you are unsure then to protect the site owner the picture should be removed.

ive changed to show link to ebay item now to suit mods concerns

even tho i occasionally see other pictures posted on this forum from ebay items

chrisgregg
31-10-06, 20:59
arrows did you get your coral off ebay m8 was it what you paid for or not :D

berns
31-10-06, 21:20
any chance of a direct link?

its another forum site so not sure mods be to keen on posting it but they ok about it then ill post it on here clippo

berns
31-10-06, 21:33
arrows did you get your coral off ebay m8 was it what you paid for or not :D

the seller got some more of the same but this time without the heavy blue lighting, i guess seller reads this forum and has a consious after all or doesnt want any returns from buyers lol

chrisgregg
31-10-06, 22:04
sounds true berns he sold some pink ones the other day for 37 and 7p&p im really suprised people are paying for them dont they use this forum,

any ways are anymore people listing pics off them zoa 's

arrows
31-10-06, 22:10
will be with me tomorrow so ill let you know.

berns
31-10-06, 22:37
sounds true berns he sold some pink ones the other day for 37 and 7p&p im really suprised people are paying for them dont they use this forum,

any ways are anymore people listing pics off them zoa 's

ebay does so well with prices cause theres sooooooooooooo many ppl who do not have the oppotunity to buy some of the nicer coloured stuff where they live (thats probably about 95% reef keepers lol) so when its on ebay its on everyones doorstep (re mail order) so they fight over it lol..............

arrows
31-10-06, 22:40
this is true and a lot of people have said they have them for sale, but you guys need to make us aware, i know that your all busy but take me, i would love to buy some from you guys but unless i know you have them i can not uy them.

You can of course send me a pm.

Cheers.

:confused:

chrisgregg
31-10-06, 22:57
and me :D

berns
31-10-06, 22:59
sorry arrows i wasnt aiming that post at you, i just mean generally with all nice corals that hit ebay.

arrows
31-10-06, 23:02
berns mate, i know it was not a statement just a polite thing to say, ha i am interested as you know burns i have contacted you and asked.

berns
31-10-06, 23:34
berns mate, i know it was not a statement just a polite thing to say, ha i am interested as you know burns i have contacted you and asked.

i know its a bummer if you just gotta have it, i recently contemplated a big price on some Armour of Gods but bottled it lol i just cant warrent a 3 figure sum for them (tho there were 40 polyps) but if they were a mixture of AOG and Safecrackers aswell id of crumbled lol

you never know the new swap section when it starts may throw up some nice stuff;)

arrows
31-10-06, 23:43
mate if you ever find something but want to frag itr with me send me a pm i might be interested.

berns
01-11-06, 00:01
did carl ever post pictures of his yank import zoa's he mentioned on the zoa thread?

maestro
01-11-06, 00:05
Berns when are you getting your stm shipment? id be interested in a frag swap on the Turquoise ones in the future if they do well for you

arrows
01-11-06, 00:08
berns,

Do you work for stm or just bulk order from them as they have had some nice corals lately?

berns
01-11-06, 00:28
lol ive only ordered 2 zoa's from them arrows

hopefully receive tomorrow maestro, do the blues look nice?:) i forgot to ask chris if they are pacific or carabbean,

ive read pacific blues do not like high salinity (blane)

maestro
01-11-06, 00:36
They are labelled as cuban Turqs if that helps.

This is just from memory but they looked a bit like this its hard to tell because they are only under 2 t8's

http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=34

berns
01-11-06, 00:56
They are labelled as cuban Turqs if that helps.

This is just from memory but they looked a bit like this its hard to tell because they are only under 2 t8's

http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=34

they'll be very sweet looking however similar:D

your blue clues look kinda nice too

arrows
01-11-06, 08:09
coral arrived and if not for it being so small i would have missed it, he really has zoomed in on the picture to make it look so big, luckly i know this was the case but if you are new to the hobby, you would think from the picrure that you were getting a large frag.

This is on a dead piece of coral branch.

He asked me to leave feedback, what should i say. dont zoom in so much next time and give us soem measurements?

arrows
01-11-06, 08:29
i see the guy has another 6 lots of dragon eye on ebay right now,

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZcoralsnbitsQQhtZ-1

he has made some money and now is looking to make tons more but the picrues are so zoomed in it makes them look bigger then they are.

berns
01-11-06, 10:37
arrows did you not notice the egg crate grid they sitting on, you can see how big they are as the grid holes are half inch square

nice and orange?

berns
01-11-06, 12:17
heres my delivery and im not happy for these to go in with my other zoa's as they are, the reasons are lower rock has a couple pox, only a couple so a bit of doctors surgery required as precautions, the branch has lots little fungi spots that rub off quite easily so they both need a clean/dip. i think both zoa rocks will be placed into a small quarenteen tank for now for the safety of my other zoa's.

my dip - is a bowl of heated RO water with added lugo's iodine.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm order.JPG

so firstly ive placed both new zoa's in a clear round bowl of their bag water only and as water temp dropped alot ive placed this bowl of 2 zoa's into my dip bowl of heated ro water, this will increase the temp of water in zoa bowl slowly before i dip/clean, tho zoa's are quite hardy theres no need to temp-shock them.

after dip - lower rock i will cut out a few polyps surrounding the couple with pox and place rock in QT, the above branch rock is getting a very soft brush wipe to remove white fungi spots whilst dipping then also placed in QT.
im not sure wat the fungi is or if it will return but ive just read a recent thread elsewhere of a product used in the fish trade that on intial trial has removed it and kept the zoa free from fungi returning.

who would of thought corals could course problems lol
but as hardy as zoa's are pox/fungi's are common place with them and if you lost parts or whole colonies without knowing why then a closer inspection of the polyps can throw up answers.

anyway ill see how things turn out, fingers crossed


edit - forgot to say always wear rubber gloves when messing with zoa's

arrows
01-11-06, 12:28
where did they come from?

berns
01-11-06, 12:47
where did they come from?

arrows tobe honest ive seen the pox on zoa colonies in 4 lfs over last 2 weeks so i guess its going around at the moment so which shop they from not relevent.

arrows
01-11-06, 13:15
sorry no i did not mean what shop i meant was it from a shop or ebay?

berns
01-11-06, 16:30
arrows it was a mail order

well things not look good after dip/cleran up as the branch is covered with pox with a few dead polyps now showing and the other rock has a few more pox then first could see and a brown slime type covering on scattered polyps within the small colony which is first sign of dieing/disintegration. a few pieces of polyp matting just fell off the branch when cleaning which as the pox spreads/eats at the flesh of matting it looses grip as it dies, basically its infested.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm branch 1.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm 2.JPG

so wat are the chances of these surviving? well pox does not always kill the whole colony but the dieing has started and the branch is in very bad state, on the rock i can see bad polyps on rock that gonna follow suit, so i wouldnt bet against a wipeout with either in a very short period of time.

instantsquid
01-11-06, 16:36
I'm not a "zoo" expert, so could you explain what "pox" is for the less enlightened?

- Ian

arrows
01-11-06, 16:48
yes me too as i would and could have just popped it into my tank.:rolleyes:

berns
01-11-06, 16:59
hi ian, i gather it got its name as it looks like chicken pox which show as white and or to brown blotches on the polyp stems. the jury is still out weather its a bacterial infection or parasitic tho no known beasties that are found heve been associated to it, if you have other zoa's in your tank and you put an infected zoa colony in your tank it can have either a mild effect just killing a few polyps here and there to a total wipeout as it spreads from one colony to another.

in my short zoa collecting period this is the second time ive encountered pox on a zoa colony as ive just come off the back of it and it spread from a bad infected colony to 3 other small colonies in my main tank before i got hold of it. i lost one and half colonies and may have lost more if i not perform major surgery on those other 3. (major surgery was to cut every single polyp from rock and place so as they not touching each other on a sand tray, 50% of them survived and i presume its cause their matting or stems or both had not yet been infected as none of the survivers showed any pox, did i stop it spreading to those that survived? i dont know but they survived when others around them didnt.

my own view so far is i think it spreads through matting without you realising before showing on a polyp here and there but i cant work out how it spreads from one colony to another when they are 6" apart unless its water bourne, over on rc theres a mountain of sad stories of those that have had it in varying degrees and yet still they not know for sure how it spreads or how to stop it.

berns
01-11-06, 17:17
another couple facts regarding pox from the yanks is that it doesnt seem to infect the larger polyp colonies (palys) or rather only the odd report of a paly amongst the thousands of zoa infections and apparently pox dont infect pink zoa's, i can personally vouch for the pinks seemingly immune as the pox by past a pink zoa to infect one the other side.

chrisgregg
01-11-06, 21:00
let me no when you get them corals berns and clown and thanks for the swap, so who has some zoa's or other corals for swaps and where are we meant to post as im getting confused now ??? should it go back to live stock section or keep in hear

maestro
01-11-06, 21:01
I think this is more like the zoa discussion thread, all swaps and sales should be in the livestock section

chrisgregg
01-11-06, 21:03
no probs :D

arrows
01-11-06, 21:05
mods,

can we not have a zoo section this is getting bigger and bigger:confused:

chrisgregg
01-11-06, 21:10
think there sorting a swap section for us but zoa's section does soung good but they they will need a lps section etc so think its getting picky again

arrows
01-11-06, 21:19
just a zoo section surely will be enough:confused:

berns
01-11-06, 22:27
let me no when you get them corals berns and clown and thanks for the swap, so who has some zoa's or other corals for swaps and where are we meant to post as im getting confused now ??? should it go back to live stock section or keep in hear

ok will do chris

arrows
01-11-06, 22:33
come on guys whos got the zoos to sell, somneone must have?

berns
01-11-06, 22:46
come on guys whos got the zoos to sell, somneone must have?

lol this thread was for zoa chat arrows the other thread was for selling etc.

arrows
01-11-06, 22:55
oh sorry its just i saw a message earlier asking the same i just wanted to let all know the same.

slappy
02-11-06, 01:01
Has anyone come across this site?

http://www.zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=15

arrows
02-11-06, 07:45
yes its a good site, what did you think?

berns
02-11-06, 12:45
update a couple hours after lights on this morning

branch tonga zoa looking fungi free, pox everywhere but its brown looking pox which is actually the end of cycle (starts white,spreads and kills then pox turns brown after any slaughter and dissappears) and as its not died off already durring that phase its a strong zoa. tho i can see just a few that look dodgy but its early so time will tell.

heres a picture (sorry as they always crap lol) of cuban blue this morning, i removed some pox polyps but can see a couple more pox where polyps not opening yet where also there is a brown coating on some so they dont look good, but its early and so expecting more polyps to open.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm cuban watch2.JPG


by the seller is a nice chap and genuine caring trader and has offered me a full return on these 2 zoa's but the cuban is only a small colony and very rare and from experience i know i may be able to save some polyps if i dont wait till its too late so this one im gonna take my chances with.

berns
02-11-06, 12:50
ill try the picture through a glass tonite on both zoa's

berns
02-11-06, 12:52
let me no when you get them corals berns and clown and thanks for the swap, so who has some zoa's or other corals for swaps and where are we meant to post as im getting confused now ??? should it go back to live stock section or keep in hear

got the zoa this morning chris, all is well thx

berns
02-11-06, 18:59
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm glass blue.JPG

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/stm glass branch.JPGlol not any better using a glass

berns
02-11-06, 19:00
branch

berns
02-11-06, 19:04
i cant upload the branch for some reason

chrisgregg
02-11-06, 22:19
zoaid.com zoa morphing

(that zoa morph in just about every physically characteristic available to them)

sounds mad but its good the way it works off the pictures they show

berns
03-11-06, 23:06
i got some of these im gonna call them REVERSE DRAGON EYES as thats wat they look like, nice and bright aswell (out of focus pictures is my thing lol)

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/reverse dragon eyes.JPG
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/reverse dragon eyes 2.JPG

arrows
04-11-06, 15:30
nice very nice

maestro
09-11-06, 13:04
Just to let people know, I bought a scapel set for fragging zoas of ebay for 99p and its actually really good, the handles are metal and blades seem sharp!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16-PC-CRAFT-CARVING-KNIFE-SET-TOOL-for-CARD-making_W0QQitemZ200045590125QQihZ010QQcategoryZ839 82QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

berns
09-11-06, 14:59
nice set dave, i have a model shop local but i think i pay £4 for mine for my single stainless scalpal.

Wh00pS
09-11-06, 19:27
Just to let people know, I bought a scapel set for fragging zoas of ebay for 99p and its actually really good, the handles are metal and blades seem sharp!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16-PC-CRAFT-CARVING-KNIFE-SET-TOOL-for-CARD-making_W0QQitemZ200045590125QQihZ010QQcategoryZ839 82QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ive had 2 of those sets, both snapped on first time of using :rolleyes:
Its better to spend a couple pf quid extra and get the real thing.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-SWANN-MORTON-SCALPEL-HANDLE-10-A-BLADES-low-P-P_W0QQitemZ220046356778QQihZ012QQcategoryZ83986QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem

arrows
09-11-06, 22:15
is the holder for the blade on these strong as i would want it for other things, had others and they just snapped off?

Wh00pS
10-11-06, 00:17
They are pretty decent but if you want something really strong B&Q sell an all metal craft knife that is really good for just about anything.

arrows
10-11-06, 00:20
cheers for that

chrisgregg
11-11-06, 18:53
ive used kitchen knife before now and sizzors but i always try to get the rock and not the coral wither way they always look the same after a few days :D

arrows
11-11-06, 18:59
if i used the kitchen knife the wife would put it in my back afterwards, wont go there with that one.

chrisgregg
11-11-06, 19:35
dont tell her :p

arrows
11-11-06, 20:08
:D brave man