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My Maroon and Ocellaris seem to have paired up, though the male Ocellaris doesn't follow the Maroon around. The maroon has seemingly decided on a corner of my tank for her nest, as she vibrates her body to "clean" the corner(In other words blow the sand away lol). The Ocellaris does the shaky mating thing at her, but she doesn't usually do it back. They have been in the same tank without problems for almost 11 months. Could they breed?
Oh, and they also sleep in the same spot(not in the nesting corner, but pretty close to it), if that helps any. :)
I found a thread that someone posted on another forum about how he bred his maroon and ocellaris. His thread is really helpful, so if my maroon starts laying eggs(I'm going to read up on stimulating clownfish breeding) I'm going to set things up for the fry and raise maybe 20-25ish fry because there isn't all that much demand for them around here even though I'll post a thread in the classifieds.
i dont know alot about it unfortunatly so i cant really help you out, but it sounds promising, will be intresting to see what happens!
keep us updated?
:)
Sounds fine in theory. However, I would be concerned at the ethics of supplying cross-bred fish. Why not try breeding fish that are at least the same species?
JMHO
John
Anything is worth a punt, go for it
Sounds fine in theory. However, I would be concerned at the ethics of supplying cross-bred fish. Why not try breeding fish that are at least the same species?
JMHO
John
I may not even sell/give them to a store. I may just stick with individuals, considering what you have said. And as for your question, it's because my father refuses to get me a baby maroon. :( :mad:
simon garratt
26-03-07, 00:20
A difficult one to be honest...'If' they manage to do it,and 'If' you manage to rear the young, then as a keeper you have an obligation to look after them..Could you house 20-30 juvanile clowns???
Inveriably they land in the hands of other keepers who may pair them with thier own causing further variations and possibly problems..
As a hobby that is constantly under the spotlight of environmentalists, we have to be carefull with this practice.. What is seen by some as a fluke, or novalty, is seen by others as a marketing oportunity and by others as a travasty aginst the natural order of things..Its this latter group and the amount of clout some of them have that determins how our hobby is portrayd.
Personnaly im against 'deliberate or avioidable' cross breeding..natural cross beeding does occure (Zebrasoma, Centopygy, and Pomocanthus a case in point, as do species spacific anomolies (snowflake clowns) but thats a natural process and not forced..in this case its not only two differing species we are talking, but two differing genus's. ie amphiprion, and Premnas...
Just some points to consider.
Regards
Si.
I'm not really going to try to force them to breed... If they don't, I'll just shrug and do something else. If they do:
1. I'd feel extremely guilty not at least trying to save some of my favorite fish's babies.
2. It'd be fun.
As for the people who breed them because they want to, I honestly can't control that. I can recommend that they not, but other than that... Also, they did pair up naturally. And there are several stores in my area that could take the juv. clowns if they want to(I probably won't go with the stores, as said above, because of people possibly breeding them and corrupting a lot of clownfishes' genes mostly because possibly only like 15 babies will survive). Combined with people buying them from the 2(maybe 3, I'm not sure about 1) forums I use, hopefully the juv. clowns will be sold quickly(and probably cheaply too lol). This whole pair-up thing happened completely naturally. When my dad and I purchased them, we had no idea whatsoever that they weren't supposed to get along. The LFS we bought them from, of course, didn't tell us or didn't know. They got along and since they didn't kill each other, we kept them both. And with the signs of POSSIBLE breeding showing up more, I'm just hoping they will breed. I love animals and raising animals, even fish, from babies would be like heaven for me.
Oh and as for the obligation thing, I love animals and I would never neglect them. You can ask anyone I know, they'll all agree. As an example(I'm not trying to brag or anything), I bottle-fed a pair of orphaned kittens for my neighbor for 7 days(5 were school days, big time ouch) because she was in the hospital. I don't care how much work and dedication is involved.
simon garratt
26-03-07, 01:48
Wasnt a critisism lee, simply an observation. Admirable care and attention agreed, Im simply saying that despite our utmost good intentions, some things are 'maybe' not the best thing to do.
I must say though, you seem incredibly litterate for a 12yr old lee...:worship:
fair do's..
regards
Si.
Thanks lol. My friend Anna thinks I type too fast.
And I'm really not that literate, I just read too much and I know a few more words than most kids my age.
My clowns are still sleeping in the same place. I checked around and thankfully there aren't any eggs yet(I haven't set up anything for them yet except the quarantine tank for the babies). I'm going to increase my light period to 14 hours to encourage breeding and who knows, they might not even be a breeding pair. If they don't, I'll just start begging my dad some more to let me get a baby maroon.
This pairing is already available to aquarists in the US and I have seen at least one example here in the UK. Lots of information on this pairing over on reefcentral for you to look into if you so wish.
i have a "pair" of heterospecifics, male tomato and female cinamon. bought as a pair from lfs just assumed the male's tomato looks were juvi colouration. once they start breeding it's hard to stop (if you wanted). mine have only just stopped breeding i think because their nem went on a wander. have since moved it back and hoping they start again. i know a reefer on RC had the same pair tho his female was tomato, and all the juvi's turned out to be tomato. haven't done any research into other hetero's but wonder who the kids would take after.
to prepare my clowns for breeding i fed them some nice meaty bloodworms to get them ready for expending all that energy! any chance of some pics? IME once they start blowing the sand with their tails it's just a matter of time, give them a little extra food and good luck.
Here are some pics: http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/Cazoz_DSCN1526.jpg
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/Cazoz_DSCN1532.jpg
I'll try to get a picture of the female in her corner.:)
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