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Tristan
05-04-07, 19:11
I have just taken up the offer of a months free trial of the fauna marine products and in preperation for my low nutrient system i was thinking of getting rid of my dsb........

What do you guys think? i have read that they can harbour detritrus which is very true! but this makes the low nutrient target difficult to achieve which makes perfect sense:D

I am also growing cheato in the sump, is it a good idea to keep growing it or shall i lose that as well?

Click in my sig to see my tank on the last page of the thread:thumbsup:
jobr
05-04-07, 19:16
Tristan, there is some debate on this.

Check Si Clarkes thread he has now taken his out.

Simon the current tank of the month has a DSB and uses zeo, although i think he is not considering removal.

on my upgrade I am going to use FM system, I am designing my sump without a DSB,.
Tristan
05-04-07, 19:29
Well that pretty much answers my question...

The fm products will do the job of the dsb anyway!

I can get better turnover and surface skimming if i remove the dsb and the other sump, then replace it all with a bigger sump because i can turn the pump up to full power. so it makes sense to get rid!

What about the cheato?
jobr
05-04-07, 19:53
Eventually the Cheato will die as the water becomes less nutrient rich.
Stevielad
07-04-07, 17:58
Remove the chaeto once your up and running. There is some speculation that it might remove some trace elements that corals require.
Tristan
10-04-07, 11:54
Very interesting....... Is there any evidance to this or is it just speculation?
jobr
10-04-07, 11:59
The algae won't have the nutrients to survive longterm, hence the adise to take it out.

have you read jezs article, worth a read if you haven't.
Tristan
10-04-07, 12:10
No, could i have a link?

I understand that it wont survive for long, but i thought it would be best to have them working together for a while?

I may just take it out and do a hoover of the dsb to get rid of all the excess detritrus....... Does that sound like a good idea?
Matt G
10-04-07, 12:45
I'm guessing it's this link http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205790
jobr
10-04-07, 12:46
No, could i have a link?

I understand that it wont survive for long, but i thought it would be best to have them working together for a while?

I may just take it out and do a hoover of the dsb to get rid of all the excess detritrus....... Does that sound like a good idea?

http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205790

Hoover the dsb?
Tristan
10-04-07, 12:57
Syphon off excess detritrus from my dsb.......
AlanM
10-04-07, 13:01
umm, interesting, after reading Jez's article I'm now thinking of changing my sump plans completely as I didn't thing ULNS was compatable with my softie approach but now I realise it is a good thing.

However, I'm still a little confused (ok a lot confused but whatever)

Are we saying within a ULNS system a fuge is not possible, by this I mean another high level tank fed with water from the display tank weir gravity returned to the display tank.

I was going to have cheato in this with a sprinkling of sand and "farm grunge" type stuff. I would have a phyto reactor feeding into the fuge, all of this mostly to bread little critters to fall into the display.

Or is there a better way to have a "pod" and other critter, I'm thinking now that something bigger than my current pod tupperware cereal container would be just as appropriate rather than a fuge.

Oh boy, have I got myself confused now!

Thanks

Alan.