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from STM... for a top secret project I am working on.:cool:
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/IMG_6444.jpg
few things to do yet... I might even hook up my overtank fuge again.
starfish 1
23-04-07, 18:05
what you going to put in it
from STM... for a top secret project I am working on.:cool:
Damn you with your teasing......... I look forward to seeing it progress though if your other tanks anything to go by :)
what you going to put in it
cheers folks. I'm thinking of a pair of gobies of some kind... suggestions welcome though! ..plus a mixture of corals, most of which are going to be frags etc from my 'big tank'. I might even buy back my yellow mantis shrimp and have him in the fuge again.
all will become clear in time.
it'll be a while before the ultimate intention of the tank is revealed.... ;)
Oh we need clues , surely you can give clues away :rolleyes:
Is it vegetable , animal or mineral ? ;)
nope - you're barking up the wrong tree matey. Hoping to get the project moving along as soon as possible... just waiting on some ultra rock from STM now.
nice looking tank, the fact you have a pretty weak light over it makes me think it's going to be dendro?!?! :)
nope, wrong wrong wrong!
It's going to be softies and LPS out of my big tank, nothing new with the stocking really. Oh yeah, the light doesn't look very powerful in that shot because I bounced a flash off the ceiling to show the stand etc. Should be fine for my needs though.
You'll never guess to be honest... you'll just have to keep an eye on this thread!
Tank is a Wave Cubo 30.... 30x30x35(h)cm 32litres / 7 UK gal (more like 6gal when set-up though) courtesy of STM.
Cabinet is an AquaOne 320 beech 'de-badged' and without the handle.
Ill be following this as these little Nano reefs are ace :thumbsup:
cheers - this is keeping me going until I get my garage conversion underway. Once complete I am aiming to move my 30gal into a Rena 45 gal (sitting empty at the moment) in my new studio, and to move this little nano from my current office down there too.
So you might be the first one to get two tank of month awards ....:D
my guess is your gonna start aquatic photo classes with it,you did say we'll never guess so expect loads of tries:wave:
joe
mikeadams1985
24-04-07, 19:40
a foot spa?
couple of triggers would look really good in that :whistling:
not even close... although some amusing suggestions.
2 totms would be nice!
He's going to knock a whole into his bathroom and mount it in there. So he can see his fishies hen he's taking his bath. :D Close?
Looks good :)
How do you like the tank? I'm thinking of getting one myself :)
cheers - I certainly like the look of it... remains to be seen how it performs over the long term.
I have just put my old 12x8x8" overtank fuge back into position... just needs a few small adjustments to be able to run again. This will increase the system volume by about 2.5gal. I will also be able to put the heater and a small air driven skimmer in there. Will probably have it with rubble and caulerpa/chaeto plus a small mantis of some kind although I might consider some other kind of crustacean instead....
I also have a cut down maxijet 900 that I am considering running behind the rockwork in the main tank. Run on a timer, this should provide some excellent random flow. Also need an external filter of some kind to feed the fuge.
Go and buy one now!
cool cool, my plan is to have a sump, just pmed stm to see if the back panel is tempered :)
I have a 12x8x8 laying around aswell! :o
Will prolly add my two 11w arc pods on there aswell lighty lighty lighty :)
Like the stand too :)
Get some more pics up! ;)
cheers - more pics shortly.
With the stand, you could actually put the top and base on backwards so you have a straight edge to match the front of the tank. Thoughti t looked better like this myself though... good fit actually, cost £40. inc delviery (non sponsor)
update: 5kg of fab uncured ultra grade live rock from STM now in (aquascaping not 100% yet). Curing with phyto. Overtank fuge added and plumbed in. Fed by Eheim 2224 in cabinet. Heater and Sander skimmer in fuge. Sawn off maxijet 900 providing extra flow in main tank.
Substrate to be added to both tanks probably next weekend. Polyfilter ready for hang-on filter. Could use some Chaeto for the fuge......
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/IMG_6887.jpg
SpanishTony
14-05-07, 10:04
Clippo,
Could possibly have a spare handful of chaeto for you mate.
Tony
cheer Tony - PM'd
Forgot to mention - will be putting a backing on the fuge at some point too.
A few stats:
Main tank volume (taking water level and rock displacement into account) is 27l, fuge volume is 10l, filters, pipework 4l - so total system volume of about 40l or 8gal. I have the eheim throttled back a bit so I estimate it is running at about 200lph - turnover of fuge is therefore about 20 times per hour. In tank circulation is return from fuge (200lph), plus 900lph from cut-down maxijet plus 250lph from Niagra HOB filter - so approx 1300lph total giving main tank turnover of nearly 50 tank vols per hour. I might remove the maxijet once cycling is complete to bring this down to 15-20 tank vols per hour also removing all equipment from main tank.
If anyone spots any holes in this please let me know.
curing continues... been having a think the last few days about final stocking for the main tank. I am leaning towards softies, mushrooms, gorgs at first (all frags or full bits from my other tank) then a few LPS from my other tank. Fish wise, I am thinking a trio of shrimp gobies (not sure which species) and a pair of bluestripe pipes (again!). I'd love to get everything as tank bred as this would make it a very 'low impact' tank. For the fuge, I am considering a pair of peppermint shrimp (after they have been in the main tank for a coupls of weeks) plus maybe a saron shrimp or maybe a couple of pairs of dwarf seahorses (without the saron shrimp).... or maybe just a small mantis on its own. Fuge will contain shallow substrate, rubble and macro algae.
With the seahorses, the overflow would represent a problem and would need to be screened somehow. Not sure how this would affect the water level. Any ideas?
Will chaeto grow in natural daylight on a windowsill?
quick update... tested water last night and got no detectable Ammonia but a Nitrite level of 0.02 (Salifert). Looks like I missed the first part of the cycle but will keep an eye on it over next few days (this was uncured rock btw). Added final 50ml of phyto. When Nitrite level drops I will add polyfilter and do a water change and then test for Nitrate, KH and Calcium, dripping some kalk if necessary until I get coralline growing. Then it's time for a maybe a couple of snails, an emerald crab and a few small softy frags.
Oh yeah, getting some Chaeto from a local Public Aquarium on the weekend.
quick update - Nitrite level dropped a few weeks ago and I now have a very low Nitrate level. Chaeto is growing well in the fuge to which I have added substrate and rubble. Macro fauna has exploded - loads of pods of all kinds, stomatellas etc etc. Main tank now has substrate and a few corals - lobophytum, zoos, plus LPS pieces from my main system that were being picked on by my flame angel - green trachy, orange fungia, red acan. I am now target feeding these to regain condition. Added pair of peppermints both of which are now carrying eggs. Pics when time permits.
quick pic of one of my pregnant peppermints:)
http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/80094713/original.jpg
Cool - nice pic! Any more firm ideas about stocking etc?
John
cheers! - with regard to stocking, I'll be adding a few more bits and pieces shortly - all tank propagated stuff.
I might try to catch the pepps and move them to the fuge as I can't see any aips.
Considering gobies/shrimps etc as display fish - saw some nice dragon gobies in a local store.
Chaeto is growing like mad in the fuge - already pulled out 2 litre jugs full over last few weeks!
The xenia I added to the main tank has all died though! - other stuff is doing OK.... LPS recovery is proving to be slow.
adam.crouch
07-06-07, 10:23
I quite like this tank, I'm looking for a cube tank to replace my viaaqua 418, How are you finding the light on the tank? is is strong enough?
depends what you are planning to keep Adam - seems fine for the LPS and softies I have atm.
adam.crouch
07-06-07, 14:23
I've only got zoas, muchrooms, a toadstool a trumpet coral and some polyps at the moment.
What sort of LPS have you got in there?
I could always move over the lights from my nano but i'd have 2.5cm of the unit hanging over the sides of the tank. i'd probs see how it looked and then decide what to do with the lights.
I'd also have to addapt my current stand because the lenght front to back isnt long enough. Should be easy enough, i work on a construction site i'm get one of my foremen to do it for me :D
have a green trachy in there - has been retracted for ages after being picked on by my flame angel - slowly starting to expand again.
also an orange fungia - had this for ages now but it always looks a little peaky.. trying to feed it up a bit.
also have a solid red acan - this receeded a bit when i added it to my main tank but seems to be making a slow recovery. again, I am target feeding it.
also have a cynarina that i got free as a damaged piece - polyp seems to be regrowing slowly.
finally have an accidental frag from my green frogspawn (from my big tank) - not sure how this is doing..... looks like it might be in trouble.
adam.crouch
08-06-07, 09:28
Cool, Sounds good, You have any recent photos?? Goin to see if i can get this tank from my LFS
latest shots - its coming on... about 1 month since I added the uncured rock. Might start adding more corals soon. I introduced an Urchin Clingfish about 2 weeks ago actually. It seems to have settled well and I think I have seen it stealing eggs from the peppermints.
http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/80475662.jpg
very nice that mate, very nice indeedy!!
thats looking awesome!
You have any more info on what the tank is, and the lighting?
Peculiar_Clown
13-06-07, 23:08
You have any more info on what the tank is, and the lighting?
looks like one of these - from STM
http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2estm%2dshop% 2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fMarine_Shop%2ehtml&WD=nano&PN=Wave_Box_nano_Tanks%2ehtml%23a1012#a1012
cheers all - yep, its a Wave nano.
Time to catch the peppermints soon to transfer them to the fuge. Probably try to add some green mushrooms next. Finding colonies small enough to start with is the hard part!
like the look of the tank :D
Tanks look pretty good, whih one have you got? the lrger off the two?
ekulfish22
15-06-07, 12:30
Howdy Clippo, I believe you know me as Pleccy22 of the PFK forum:wave:
Nice tank by the way, I saw the same thing on STM a few months ago.
Cheers
Luke
quickie update - tank is proceeding nicely. Have moved a few corals across from my other system that weren't doing so well. Mainly LPS and corals that needed target feeding. This is proving too difficult in a tank with fish and shrimps.
Here's a shot of my green trachy... got its colour back now and expanding again after a few weeks retracted due to flame angel attentions. Feeding it a few times a week with mix of small mysis, frozen rots and cyclopeeze.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_0332.jpg
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_0335.jpg
My fungia had the same problem - I didn't feed it for a few months in my other system and it stayed retracted most of the time. It looks much better now although still has some stubborn algae on skeleton near mouth. Feeding 1 or 2 small bits of enriched mysis every other night.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_0333.jpg
Finally, here's my red acan. This went downhill as soon as I added it to my main tank but picked up again when moved to a new location briefly. Never really expanded though in the big tank and I couldn't feed it. Now I am feeding it pretty much every night with similar mix to corals above and it seems to be regenerating quickly :dance:
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_0334.jpg
Please excuse quality of shots - just quick ones them!
I have recently moved my sun corals into this tank too as they have slowly receeded in the big tank with no reliable way of feeding them (over the course of 2.5-3 years). Coupld of other bits and bobs too - some zoa frags, green frogspawn etc - all doing OK.
Recently added a stunning wheelers watchman goby too... pics as soon as it settles in.
Both peppermints are now in the refugium.
This tank due to feature in aquatic press before the end of the year.
Snowsurfer
26-07-07, 13:04
Looks good.
My LFS just got some of these in and im tempted to get one. How do you find evaporation on such a small tank ? I have a D&D 24 nano but as it has a lid evap is not a problem.
Really smart looking clean tanks though.
evaporation is pretty low as I don't run a fan or anything on this tank. My fuge is uncovered though so I probably lose some there. It's still low though - the cover galss obviously helps. Overall it's great. I wouldn't run it without additional circulation though - the HOB filter isn't enough for my purposes. I currently run a sawn off maxijet 900 pointing at the rear glass, the Niagra filter and the return from my fuge fed by an Eheim 224. I turn the Maxijet off in the evenings (for feeding) and overnight. I like the way you can angle the light to get nice full illumination or a shadowy effect.
Snowsurfer
26-07-07, 14:19
I didnt realise they had a cover, is this standard or something you have added ? Must admit i havnt seen one out the box compleatly only peered into one. They are cubo 30's though so are the same.
yep, cover glass is standard - very nice rounded edges too. Sits on little plastic supports around the tank rim. Very useful if keeping potential jumpers.
Those Corals look lovely Clippo...
Any chance of a full tank shot????
Thanks
Elliott
lovely pics
would you mind if i got a couple blown up?
R
not sure they'd blow up too well - the dpi is only set for web use.
If you are interested in posters etc, take a look here:
http://www.pbase.com/clippo/oceanart
PM if interested.
adam.crouch
07-08-07, 08:59
Any more updates? I think i might buy one of these tanks next week.
added a stunning wheelers watchman a few weeks back, then a tiger pistol. Have now formed a partnership and are bold enough to get a quick shot.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_5444.jpg
May I ask how your clingfish is???
How is it feeding?
I had a call from my LFS today asking me to take one on in my nano and am concerned about its feeding habits as I do not keep urchins.
Any advice greatly received.
Love the goby/shrimp pair - crackin pic
added a stunning wheelers watchman a few weeks back, then a tiger pistol. Have now formed a partnership and are bold enough to get a quick shot.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_5444.jpg
Awesome!
Great tank Clippo.:)
latest tank shot - update shortly
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_5485web.jpg
looking good m8, coming along nicely. love the colour of that fungia?!
cheers Ray! - yep I think its a fungia although i see Anthony Calfo calls it Cycloceris in 'C the Journal'.... got some lovely plating coralline on the Caulastrea too - have to get a close-up of that I think.
quick update - had a bit of a set-back a couple of weeks ago. The chaeto in my fuge seemed to stall out and start getting covered in algae. As there was a fairly slow flow through the fuge, I think this must have elevated the pH or something and I lost my 2 peppermints and clingfish that were in there.
Anyway, I have now taken the fuge off line completely and am running an MCE600 on the tank. This is just until I amalgamate it all with my other tank in a bigger system towards the end of the year.
Couple of the LPS are looking sorry for themselves - hopefully they should recover with the MCE in place.
I am tempted to add a couple of 'dither fish' as the shrimp and goby are still pretty timid. If so it will be stuff that I can fit into my next system. Maybe some pyjama cardinals or a small fathead anthias.... wouldn't mind trying to pair up my orchid dottyback in the new system too, so might consider adding a small one in this tank.
Looking really good clippo!!!
I love that type of frogspawn you have...its really stunning :D
Elliott
thanks mate - those are 2 'accidental' frags in there actually. The mother colony in my big tank grows pretty quick.
also got:
green trachy
yellow sun coral
orange fungia/cycloseris
red carnation
red mushroom
red acan
gold tree coral
lobophytum
pink zoas
cynarina
green trumpet
green frogspawn
single scarlet reef hermit
tiger pistol
wheelers/gorgeous prawn goby
cheers Ray! - yep I think its a fungia although i see Anthony Calfo calls it Cycloceris in 'C the Journal'.... got some lovely plating coralline on the Caulastrea too - have to get a close-up of that I think.
it's certainly a lovely colour, would like to add a fungia to my tank at some point.
I am tempted to add a couple of 'dither fish' as the shrimp and goby are still pretty timid. If so it will be stuff that I can fit into my next system. Maybe some pyjama cardinals or a small fathead anthias.... wouldn't mind trying to pair up my orchid dottyback in the new system too, so might consider adding a small one in this tank.
Love the Orchid dottybacks it would be great if you could pair them up. I had one once but when he grew up took exception to my purple firefish and he was easiest to catch so had to go. Firefish eventually went into a friends system so i'm tempted to get another once i've re-homed my tang.
Someone on another forum had a brood of bengaii cardinals for sale at about a fiver each.
im pretty jealous of that shrimp/goby pair they look cracking
cheers - I bought them seperately but they teamed up quickly. I guess because its such a small tank but also as tiger pistols are usually quick to team up.
The goby is amazing - one of the most colourful fish I've ever seen.
it's certainly a lovely colour, would like to add a fungia to my tank at some point.
Ray - it certainly seems to benefit from direct target feeding. Takes small bits of mysis etc. In my other system it rarely expanded (due to flame angel attentions) and I couldn't feed it for months. During this time the skeleton around the mouth became slightly exposed and grew some small bits of blackish algae on it. Since moving it to the new tank and feeding almost nightly, it has gone from strength to strength.
hello clippo, i'm very new to all this but practical fish keeping landed on my mat this morning...had piece about a nano being set up....i thought to myself 'this looks familiar!!' and sure enough...it was u!! :thumbsup: well done mate, not only is it a fantastic tank....u is also famous!!!! :applause: nice one!! Jamie.
cheers - didn't even realise it was out yet!
Part 2 due next month then. Obviously there's a bit of a time lag.... all the latest developments here.
ChrisBFish
02-09-07, 21:24
Looks lovely - can't believe I've missed it until now! I have to admit I'm not generally a huge fan of nanos, but this is very nice! :)
looking great clippo! Is that pistol very noisy? Well done in the new setup, best of luck for the future!
cheers mate - it's quite loud when it 'caps-off' :laugh: but it doesn't do this much. Normally only a couple of times at feeding time.
added a stunning wheelers watchman a few weeks back, then a tiger pistol. Have now formed a partnership and are bold enough to get a quick shot.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_5444.jpg
Brilliant shot of a brilliant subject. This prawn/goby relationship is definately on my stocking list for the new cube:applause:
rgds,
Ant
cheers mate - yeah, have to say I am considering trading my sulphur goby for another wheelers when i have my new set-up ready. Maybe another tiger too. It'll be a tough decision though - my sulphur is a real character.
backrowslea
05-09-07, 20:49
Clippo,
I love your nano and I have been looking for a "bare" nano for a while! could you let me know the dimensions of your nano, the ones on the STM site appear to have less height! Also how much live rock do you have in there?
Backrowslea
hi and thanks! - measures 30cmx30cmx35cm(h). Click http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2estm%2dshop% 2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fMarine_Shop%2ehtml&WD=cubo&SHOP=%20&PN=copy_of_Wave_Box_nano_Tanks%2ehtml%23a1054#a105 4
rock is 5kg of STMs finest ultra grade - cured by me with stm supergreen phyto.
Swimmingwiththefishes
05-09-07, 22:48
Hi,
Hope STM are sorting you out as i'm sure they are gonna sell quite few more off the back of this!:D
And they deserve to,they've been doing them long enough:applause: ,i remember seeing them on the counter when they started doing them years back.Great shop,shame its the other end of the country!
Cheers!
:D yep, I have done quite nicely out of the deal! ;)
Many thanks to Chris incidentally - check out his own article featuring the tank in MarineWorld.
Not long now before I can reveal the secret project!:dance:
backrowslea
07-09-07, 12:14
Cheers Clippo!
my mind is set on one of these now, didnt see any point in buying an orca/d+d etc just to remove all the filter media etc....
Just need to convince the wife......
excellent mate - there you go Chris!
:D Not long now before I can reveal the secret project!:dance:
you're keeping us in suspenders for far too long over this. :D
you're keeping us in suspenders for far too long over this. :D
Ray - even though I don't know what you look like, that's a mental image I think I could do without! :laugh:
disco_dave
07-09-07, 20:08
cool nano :thumbsup:
The Escaped Ape
09-09-07, 19:21
Pretty inspiring. I'm thinking about setting up a nano soon, after a long hiatus without a tank. Having a couple of corals that benefit from target feeding in a tank small enough to make it more straightforward seems like an excellent plan.
Thanks for the ideas!
cheers! - not long now before the secret is revealed (assuming new PFK is out this week).... anyone guess it yet?
cheers! - not long now before the secret is revealed (assuming new PFK is out this week).... anyone guess it yet?
give us a hint :D
OK.... still perhaps not too obvious....
http://www.pbase.com/clippo/image/86503463/original.jpg
You've bred glow in the dark corals??
YES!
only joking..... you're on the right track though.
disco_dave
01-10-07, 12:29
clippo what camera do you use there m8
canon 350 plus Tamron 90mm mate.
disco_dave
01-10-07, 12:32
cheers your good with those photo's
giving any lessons:laugh:
few articles on my website mate - click link below.
OK, over 6000 views now and no one has got it yet - you're all too slow!
So here it is.....
It's a fluorescence reef tank.
More in PFK due out shortly.
aberdeen aquarist
01-10-07, 13:04
It came out on Saturday, but I only saw this today!!
Cracking write up too a real credit to you.
thanks - hope the pics came out OK!
The full tank shot was quite a challenge.... will post it here at some point.
disco_dave
01-10-07, 15:44
let us see it:whistling: :laugh:
here you go! - I would love to have stocked the tank more heavily but alas didn't have enough time.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/DPP_0333a1.jpg
disco_dave
03-10-07, 15:21
look's excellent
looks good m8. i've a pic of my tank like that somewhere. my pic aint as sharp tho :D got some lovely glowing mushies tho.
There doesn't appear to be a light above the tank so how are you getting those colours?
or is it photoshop trickery?
SpanishTony
03-10-07, 17:24
Not sure if I like it John, doesn't look very natural, is it better seen with the naked eye?
cheers all - as mentioned, this shot was taken under special lighting conditions - kind of like 'night-vision' if you like. It was taken in pitch darkness basically to showcase a unique tank created and stocked with mainly fluorescent corals (not all are of course).
What 'trickery' do you think has been done to this shot Jon?
thats stunning! :D
i keep reading PFK about it even though its on here :thumbsup:
as explained in the article, a couple of the corals are looking poorly - I moved them into this tank to help them try to recover from the attentions of my flame angel.
Here's a close-up of my retracted red acan, again as a pure fluorescence image.
http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/acan1.jpg
Reef bloke
03-10-07, 20:30
You been using black light?
cheers all - as mentioned, this shot was taken under special lighting conditions - kind of like 'night-vision' if you like. It was taken in pitch darkness basically to showcase a unique tank created and stocked with mainly fluorescent corals (not all are of course).
What 'trickery' do you think has been done to this shot Jon?
John I wouldn't have a clue (never owned or used PS).
What are the special lighting conditions that you refer too?
no Tony - it isn't UV. The tank is lit normally.
Article here: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/9/aafeature
Hi Clippo
Any chance of a few pics of your Nano project to date?
Cheers
Phil
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