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zahira
30-01-08, 21:03
Can you mix UltraAmin with UltraminS, F, UltraOrganic, UltraBio, Bak, etc, prepare a week's solution and dose this daily.

KeithM
30-01-08, 22:10
No

Dose each of these seperately and don't mix them.

e.g. if you mix bio and bak the bacteria in bio would just feed on the carbon in bak and you would just get a bacterial bloom inside your container

zahira
31-01-08, 17:53
I may be wrong, but doesn't the dendro mix suggest mixing most of the products. Possibly it excludes bak if what you say is right. In that case, can you mix the rest as stated but feed bak and amin seperately? By the rest I mean Ultamin S, F, Organic, Life, Bio, and Coral Vibrance.

zahira
31-01-08, 18:08
Suppose Ultrapac can be mixed with all the ultra foods?

KeithM
01-02-08, 09:35
Are you feeding dendronephthya? The feeding system for dendronephthya is different to the ultralith system.

The point of the mixing the dendro foods is to create a bacterial mess to feed the dendros. Trust me when I say it stinks!!

Do you know what each of those products do? what do you hope to achieve by mixing them all together?

zahira
01-02-08, 12:53
Yes, I do feed dendros. However, the mix does not smell at all. Possibly I am using a much lower dosage.

KeithM
01-02-08, 13:18
For dendros, I use Ultrapac, Ultralife, MinS, Clam, MinF and Seafan.

Ultrapac i make the day before. IMO it needs at least 24 hours to sit out. I also add some bio and minS to allow the bacteria to multiply

Ultralife, i also make the day before and mix with MinS. The ultralife powder absorbs the Amino acids and helps carry these to the corals.

After about a day, I mix both these together along with all the particle foods (MinF, Seafan and Clam). I then use this mix to feed the tank.

If you leave the mix out for about a week, you will know the smell!! I believe it is because the bacteria begins breaking down the aminos and feeds off the ultrapac

zahira
01-02-08, 17:10
So you are doing it completely different than me. I take some tank water in a bottle, mix everything you have said above (except seafan as I don't have it but including BAk and Amin), shake vigorously and store in fridge. I utilise the contents of the 250ml bottle over a week, feeding the tank once a day. Having said that, success with dendros has been limited so I am not going to keep them until the coming of a sure fire way of success. I experimented with 3 - one got nibbled by the regal angel, one survived 4 months and the oldest is slowly dying after about 9 months. Apart from some browning of the substrate, the mix does no harm but my sps seem to be more colourful and my nitrates are slowly going down. So I may continue with the mix but remove Amin (and possibly bak) from the equation and dose seperately.