my rubbish image

[beech]

What could i have done with this other than bin it!
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll147/beech08/goby2.jpg

[Peculiar_Clown]

Can you post some details about the picture, camera and settings used, tank light status etc.

[dan-the-man]

I probably should stay away from this area - no knowledge of photography whatsoever. But, I cant help myself - what about upping the contrast and lowering the brightness?

:o

Remember thats from someone with no photography knowledge! :p Just cant help myself!

[beech]

Can you post some details about the picture, camera and settings used, tank light status etc.

Canon 350d with 50mm macro lens using a speedlite flash. Tank is a D-D 24g Nano with 2x 36w lights. All set to auto and push button. Don't really get the whole iso and aperture thing :whistling:

[beech]

I probably should stay away from this area - no knowledge of photography whatsoever. But, I cant help myself - what about upping the contrast and lowering the brightness?

:o

Remember thats from someone with no photography knowledge! :p Just cant help myself!

Just tried that Dan made things worse :p
this is the pic before i messed about with it and made it worse
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll147/beech08/goby.jpg

[dan-the-man]

Lol, worth a shot - I'll sit back and watch the masters give advice ;)

[beech]

Lol, worth a shot - I'll sit back and watch the masters give advice ;)

I thought it sounded like an excellent idea you sounded very knowledgeable. Bluffer:thumbsup:

[beech]

Could someone make it look really good and ill get it printed and framed and take all the credit!!

[SCOOB]

do you mean what can be done in post production?

the original image is a tricky one anyway, for starters, it's been taken at an angle. You'll never get a sharp focussed edge when you are shooting at an angle through the tank glass, at best, you'll get a halo.

best bet, get a tripod (or table) get square on, then take it again. Post that picture and chances are the photogs on here can talk you through the PP work.

If you wanna know what settings to use on the camera itself tho, that's a diferent matter.

[beech]

do you mean what can be done in post production?



best bet, get a tripod (or table) get square on, then take it again. Post that picture and chances are the photogs on here can talk you through the PP work.

If you wanna know what settings to use on the camera itself tho, that's a diferent matter.

Wish i could Scoob but this is the little fella that has now vanished had a thread about him earlier. :(

[Dave_P]

Also the white balance looks incorrectly set. Have you got set to Auto?

[MrFish]

Had a go at Post Processing but the original isn't ideal to work with -


http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby_2.jpg


ran a focus correction filter, manually adjusted levels, manually adjusted contrast and brightness and run a tone mapping filter and then reduced size because that hides/reduces a number of problems as well.

[Aleela]

It is awful when you so badly want a picture of something, and it does not work, I have had a go for you, and here are two images, their sze is 4 X6 ish. I have altered their exposure hue contrast and colour balance, and hope they or one of them will help.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby_3.jpg

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby4.jpg

Sorry it was not an easy one, colour in images is a personal choice, we all see colour differently, so i have included both, the big problem is the coraal sand, it has soaked up the light to the point it has nearly BURNED out and has taken the Goby with it

[beech]

It is awful when you so badly want a picture of something, and it does not work, I have had a go for you, and here are two images, their sze is 4 X6 ish. I have altered their exposure hue contrast and colour balance, and hope they or one of them will help.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby_3.jpg

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby4.jpg

Sorry it was not an easy one, colour in images is a personal choice, we all see colour differently, so i have included both, the big problem is the coraal sand, it has soaked up the light to the point it has nearly BURNED out and has taken the Goby with it

Really like the second one the colour is very good. Thanks for the effort much appreciated :applause::applause:

[Sanghy]

Thought I'd give it a shot in Capture NX.

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q1/goby_4.jpg

[Paul]

With a 350D you really should be taking better pics than this. To be totally honest and brutal, i'd say bin it, RTFM and then have another go :)

[beech]

With a 350D you really should be taking better pics than this. To be totally honest and brutal, i'd say bin it, RTFM and then have another go :)

Go on Claude dont hold back tell me the truth :laugh:
U R quite right though will have to improve:whistling:

[Nath]

beech,

This is invaluable for newbies to tank photography: http://www.ximinasphotography.com/lessons/index.html

Claude is actually half right with his advice. Read as much as you can AND play with the camera at the same time.

Scoob is bang on with the comment about being at an angle to the glass. Light travelling through seawater/glass/air gets horribly bent so you're very unlikely to get a sharp picture this way. Always hold the camera so the lens is perpendicular to the glass!

Your first step would be to learn the basics regarding aperture/shutter speed and ISO. They're all intrinsically linked and understanding them is what allows such creativity with a dSLR.

One analogy I've used in the past is to think of filling a bucket full of water as being a FULLy exposed picture.

Getting the bucket full relies on several things, 1 how big is the diameter of the pipe you're filling it with (the aperture), how long do you leave the tap on (shutter speed) and how fast is the pump that's pumping the water (ISO).

So for example if the pipe is half the diameter* and the time twice as long it would still fill the bucket, no? If you halved the diameter again, but doubled the pump speed (ISO) you'd also fill it?

Either that makes some sense or I've just confused the hell out of you, LOL!


*lets not get into semantics here guys I know this doesn't add up fully

[Paul]

Go on Claude dont hold back tell me the truth :laugh:
U R quite right though will have to improve:whistling:

heh, I don't mean to offend, i'm just not a big fan/believer in 'beating about the bush' (the verbal bush that is). Some people appreciate honesty, some people curl up and cry, i have a 50% chance of that happening when i open my mouth/fingers

You live and learn :)

[Paul]

So for example if the pipe is half the diameter* and the time twice as long it would still fill the bucket, no? If you halved the diameter again, but doubled the pump speed (ISO) you'd also fill it?


Revising for my finals, i feel i must interject here*.

a) Doubling the diameter increases the flow four-fold
b) Flow is proportional to viscosity
c) increasing the length of tube increases the flow.
D) the higher the density of liquid the lower the flow characteristics

*not debating semantics but facts :)

:p:p

[Nath]

a) Yes, yes thank you for that Claude. I'm fully aware hence my original *
b) & d) I'd like to see you measure the viscosity and density of light.
c) How is it my 17-40, 24-105 and 70-200 are all f4 then? They're all different lengths!

:p

[Paul]

:offtopic: can't you meaure the density of light if it is in a vacuum? A-level physics escapes me. My flow comments are from principles of blood/liquids being poured through intravenous cannulae into veins

:rockon:

[beech]

heh, I don't mean to offend, i'm just not a big fan/believer in 'beating about the bush' (the verbal bush that is). Some people appreciate honesty, some people curl up and cry, i have a 50% chance of that happening when i open my mouth/fingers

You live and learn :)

no worries mate no offence caused. I would say exactly the same :D
no point beating around the bush.

[beech]

beech,

Scoob is bang on with the comment about being at an angle to the glass. Light travelling through seawater/glass/air gets horribly bent so you're very unlikely to get a sharp picture this way. Always hold the camera so the lens is perpendicular to the glass!



fully

The problem here is that i have a d-d nano which has a curved front. I will have to wait till i get my betta 1300 to practice :wub:

[johnnyboy]

Shoot RAW