View Full Version : Should members be allowed to advertise the use of royal mail for sending livestock
considering the legal implications is it a good idea ?
doing so is in fact illegal as its a breach of there terms, i know people cant get good rates with couriers when sending small amounts and they think royal mail is the only choice but should we be listing it, if its illegal ?
thinking about it its a double sided blade really as people will want to know what method is used.
maybe they could PM them on what delivery service they will use
Mrs Ziggy CGA
05-06-08, 01:03
I think you should differintiate(sp) between livestock and dry goods/equipment.
Livestock onLy via APC (Only uk based livestock couriers) dry goods via cheapest available.
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Actually Will, having read your poll again, I have voted 'NO'
I think you should differintiate(sp) between livestock and dry goods/equipment.
Livestock onLy via APC (Only uk based livestock couriers) dry goods via cheapest available.
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Actually Will, having read your poll again, I have voted 'NO'
i think they are the only overnight livestock courier, but it doesn't matter as we all know no one is going to want to spend that much on "postage :p"
Not illegal as such, just a breach of their terms i'd have thought?
As your above post says, APC are the only option really.
Kev
Not illegal as such, just a breach of their terms i'd have thought?
As your above post says, APC are the only option really.
Kev
i think it is illegal now as you have to follow the guidelines for transporting animals in a fit manner :thumbsup: hence why apc are th only ones who have bothered to do this :applause:
From the apc website
http://www.apc-overnight.com/information-acceptable-goods.php
Under no circumstances do APC carry any item that is marked with a diamond shaped hazardous sticker.
Other items which are not acceptable for carriage include animals and livestock, explosives, bullion, money, firearms, ammunition, fireworks and any item which is illegal under UK law.
From the apc website
http://www.apc-overnight.com/information-acceptable-goods.php
Under no circumstances do APC carry any item that is marked with a diamond shaped hazardous sticker.
Other items which are not acceptable for carriage include animals and livestock, explosives, bullion, money, firearms, ammunition, fireworks and any item which is illegal under UK law.
So we might as well use Royal mail then :rolleyes:
Just my opinion but,my first consideration would be the welfare of the livestock I had just bought.The Royal mail deals with such a large amount of stuff,that I would personally worry about their handling.I would therefore only buy from people who used dedicated couriers.
I have had livestock posted by shops that has not gone APC so where do you draw the line?
Think it has to be down to the seller to make the choice if this a correct way of doing things like shipping livestock.
:thumbsup:
From the apc website
http://www.apc-overnight.com/information-acceptable-goods.php
Under no circumstances do APC carry any item that is marked with a diamond shaped hazardous sticker.
Other items which are not acceptable for carriage include animals and livestock, explosives, bullion, money, firearms, ammunition, fireworks and any item which is illegal under UK law.
yes it depends on the specific depots i believe
adam.crouch
05-06-08, 11:58
you can legally post some livestock through Royal mail
Living creatures
Bees, Leeches, Pupae and Chrysalides, Caterpillars, Lugworms, Rag worms, Earthworms, Maggots, Silkworms, Fish fry and Eggs, Mealworms, Crickets, certain Parasites and destroyers of Noxious Pests, and some other insects sent between recognised institutions are allowed. You must use boxes that protect both the creatures and Royal Mail staff from harm. Use First Class as the minimum service and clearly label the package as "URGENT - LIVING CREATURES". Mark the sender's name and address on the outer wrapping.
When I was selling my tank and posted out corals I rang me local APC and they were very unhelpfull, said they couldnt ship corals, they wouldnt cover them etc etc and but before that the price they wanted was stupid, about £18 per parcel.
yes it depends on the specific depots i believe
When I was selling my tank and posted out corals I rang me local APC and they were very unhelpfull, said they couldnt ship corals, they wouldnt cover them etc etc and but before that the price they wanted was stupid, about £18 per parcel.
see my depot is completely the opposite of that, guess thats what happens with franchising {is it a franchise ?} they have been shipping vast amounts of livestock, for a few people, get to know them all now :) they are doing pallets upon pallets of koi at the moment, crazy amounts and they couldn't be more helpful if a box breaks etc, i have had people getting woke up at 6 in the morn, by an apc driver in a car taking the damaged item and then asking if its okay etc.
yours sound great, wills do that actually pay out for corals if they arrive dead?
I must say I have received stuff via APC, from Will and Jason. My delivery driver sees it has coral, livestock etc written on the box and adjusts his round so that it is some of the first things he drops off.
I think that helps to justify the additional expense.
Mrs Ziggy CGA
05-06-08, 15:57
Like you Will, we have a great depot too:thumbsup:. Maestro, I think they offer a better price to business's, we deffinately don't pay the price you was quoted, in fact because it costs us the same to use any other courier, we use APC for all our overnight deliveries, dry goods, equipment and livestock.
do that actually pay out for corals if they arrive dead? Never had to ask tbh, but afaik, yes.
I can understand the cost issue for Hobbyists but still cannot condone.
Sue
I've had fish delivered to me through Royal Mail and there was massive writing all over the box that said "LIVE FISH - FRAGILE", so it was no secret that they were delivering it, and they obviously weren't too bothered!
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