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WOW
21mp sensor
HD MOVIE recording..!!!!!!
LIVE view.
Canon just changes the goal posts once again.
Bit out of my price range but WOW all the same.
CRaig
Reef bloke
17-09-08, 19:42
Blimey its out then,big news!!
how much? 2k?
SHHHHHHHHHtonking.
makes you wonder what the 3d will be like.
now that's a camera i would pay £2200 for. HD movie and 21mp stills in one package. just look at how expensive HD video camera's with interchangable lenses are and it starts to seem like a bargain. i wonder if it will fit in a 5D undewate housing. that really would be a dream come true, stills and video in one package. WOOT.
might start saving now so so once they hit £1500 i can afford one.
and anothr £500 for a 17-40mm
and call it £2500 for the housing.
£4500, not bad. Does anyone want to buy a Kidney?
Roddy
Reef bloke
17-09-08, 20:26
Its got to drop more than that from surely,the 1d mark 111 is only 100 quid or so more.Admittedly its not 21mp but still..... If these prices are firm then together with the 50d price they are pricing their cameras out of the market imo.It only leaves the 450d and 1000d available to most of us mere mortals.
now that's a camera i would pay £2200 for. HD movie and 21mp stills in one package. just look at how expensive HD video camera's with interchangable lenses are and it starts to seem like a bargain. i wonder if it will fit in a 5D undewate housing. that really would be a dream come true, stills and video in one package. WOOT.
might start saving now so so once they hit £1500 i can afford one.
and anothr £500 for a 17-40mm
and call it £2500 for the housing.
£4500, not bad. Does anyone want to buy a Kidney?
Roddy
aww canon fans easily impressed by figures on paper! its cute!
HD movies on an SLR wont compete with HD movies from a camcorder, likewise stills from video cameras dont compete with compact digitals.
if you want HD video with interchangeable lenses have a look at RED
http://www.red.com/cameras
Can change the lens. The whole system is modular, you have storage options, grip options hoods, mounts, lights all sorts. Its not terribly cheap but its not far off the 5Dii to get going
Bear in mind they arent just HD, they are 4k and 5k, way beyond HD
Does anyone know if the mark II 5d will have environmental sealing though? Can't understand why with a spec that high the 5d doesn't have this, can't cost much to do.
aww canon fans easily impressed by figures on paper! its cute!
HD movies on an SLR wont compete with HD movies from a camcorder, likewise stills from video cameras dont compete with compact digitals.
if you want HD video with interchangeable lenses have a look at RED
http://www.red.com/cameras
Can change the lens. The whole system is modular, you have storage options, grip options hoods, mounts, lights all sorts. Its not terribly cheap but its not far off the 5Dii to get going
Bear in mind they arent just HD, they are 4k and 5k, way beyond HD
thus speaks a bitter nikon owner stuck with a measly 12mp Fx sensor i take it? if only canon made one of those, o wait they did 3 years ago. LOL. why would more be bad?
yeah i appreciate that but to have the option at all when diving will be the mutts, i would expect it to be better than a compacts movies but not as good as a true HD camcorder. in reality i will need to wait until this feature comes out on the 500D.
Manta - yes the sealing has been improved.
The only downside I can see on the spec is that they haven't improved the AF, but then the 5D has always been a niche market camera (wedding togs for example). Even so I'm definitely in the market for one.
I upgraded all my lenses to L's simply because I wanted to go full frame at some point and while the 1DsIII is way beyond what I'd pay for a camera this definately fits the bill.
Get this, trade up the 40D to a 50D and I think I'm set.... until the 5DIII and the 60D come out LOL!
Oh and I'll also need a few 1TB drives to store all the MASSIVE files this is gonna produce!
haha, yes dx sensor for me on my d80 and d300 but luckily the d3 and fx sensor is on the way to the office for me too so no complaints.
Never bought into the pixel count thing though. So glad Panasonic havent either, they listened to fans of the LX2 who said same pixels bigger sensor, and hence the lx3 has just that. Also on the way!
Lets not start a brand war
KROS,
That's all well and good, but assuming this has the same per-pixel performance of the sensors you mentioned (and with ISO 25600 capability I can see that happening), then a 5DII user will have the crop-ability to produce images as good as those. If the photographer then goes on to get the shot right they have a shed load more resolution to work with as well.
Both of these things are what wedding togs look for in a body, so as with the original 5D, this will sell like hot cakes (particularly when we find out what it actually starts to sell for).
I wasn't sold on the HD video to start with but the more I think about it the more I might actually use such a feature.
I'm with Roddy, at £4500 that's one hell of a set up!
Does anyone know if the mark II 5d will have environmental sealing though? Can't understand why with a spec that high the 5d doesn't have this, can't cost much to do.
10mm of rain in 3 minutes or 200mm an hour I heard. More than enough to get the shot and scarper.
It's no 1 series sealing though!
Oh no doubting the 5Dii will be a good camera, no doubt whatsoever, the 5d was great enough, and as already said. Probably perfect for a wedding photographer. Hope it is expensive though, in my experience there are too many wedding photographers out there who got into it because of the lowering set up costs, these days its easy to advertise and get a website set up and offer low prices (because they are rubbish)
Had a family wedding ruined this way... Really put me off the whole scene. I do event photography for the graphics firm i work for but i dont think id ever step foot into weddings
haha, yes dx sensor for me on my d80 and d300 but luckily the d3 and fx sensor is on the way to the office for me too so no complaints.
Never bought into the pixel count thing though. So glad Panasonic havent either, they listened to fans of the LX2 who said same pixels bigger sensor, and hence the lx3 has just that. Also on the way!
Lets not start a brand war
in all seriousness i agree there is such a thing as to many megapixels. i think 15m on a 1.6x crop factor is OTT. as in the new 50D is to much. However 21m on a 1.0 is equivelent to 13.3m on a 1.6 so thats lower than the 50D.
I was reading a review of the new D700 today and it states it is only full frame with new FX lenses, you can use DX lenses but it will apply an 1.5x crop factor automatically (which is a cool feature but i assume it losses pixels in doing so(checked its 5m with DX lenses)) the problem is that there are very few FX lenses on the market yet.
Now either i have missunderstood this or the camera is not compatible with the existing range of full frame lenses, surly this would be suicidal for Nikon.
Ok just checked this on the Nikon website Older lenses do work but may not offer full functionality depending on age.
still a 51 point AF system makes 9 seem abit measly.
Roddy
still a 51 point AF system makes 9 seem abit measly.
Roddy
Only ever use the center one on mine LOL
I deliberately havent looked too deeply at the d700 or i'll end up buying one. I doubt Nikon would have the body incompatible with all pre-dx lenses. Bearing in mind the age of the F-mount. I'm almost certain that anything thats AF but not DX should be fine, Manaual lenses also work but dont always meter correctly, (nor focus!)
Glad it doesnt push out all AF-S users though, i love the 70-200 VR way too much
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