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SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:23
Right, moved everything over today finally, rather than just a few bits.

Have plugged everything in where I thought it was before, but something is awry.

6 bar digital (former S5-S10) is showing Com light and power light.

4 bar analogue (former S11 - S14) is showing nothing, but when i start plugging it in different holes, it rapid fires all sockets.

4xDosers (former S1-S4) Nothing, Nada, not a thing.


I thought I remembered where the 3 coms cables went, but apparently not. I've moved them about and the situation doesn't improve.

The reason I am doubting the cables is because the 6 bar is showing Coms and Power, yet, none of the sockets are being turned on. The GHL definately remembers the settings, date and time are correct.


As always, user error :laugh:

By the way, I took a pic of the back of my GHL before I moved it, but as you can see, I kind of cropped the camera in too close to be able to identify the cables :laugh:

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2009Q1/seafan%20and%20stuff%20028.JPG

Cav
14-05-09, 18:26
Did you not think of labelling the cables before removing them? Bit of cellotape and a piece of paper stuck to it with the socket number would do:whistling:

Dami
14-05-09, 18:30
er will go and check, but aren't the dosers supposed to run like i digi bar and the anologue just from sockets s5-s8?

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:30
I thought of post it notes, but I didn't have any. That's as far as I got with that idea. Eventually I took a pic of the cables as above, but cut off before I could see the details on the cable that identify them.

I also didn't unplug anything other than at the Profilux end.

Should be an easy link back up. No idea why I'm not getting a response from the sockets.

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:31
er will go and check, but aren't the dosers supposed to run like i digi bar and the anologue just from sockets s5-s8?

I'm sure I piggy backed the dosers off of the digi bar.

Silverreef
14-05-09, 18:33
Hi Scoob,

The cable going into L1 L2, is the only one with writing on.:)

That then gives you fifty/fifty on the other two?


Regards

Steve

Dami
14-05-09, 18:33
thats what i'm saying, but it reads different in your first post

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:36
L1/L2 has a couple of LED blocks attached to the other end, so that makes that one easie :laugh:

I have 3 cables, 2 for the plugbars, 1 for the dosers. 1 has a magnet wrapped around it, one doesn't and one has a sticker that says it is 3.0 metres long. That was how I was going to Identify them. I just aimed the camera, waited for it to beep focus, then hit the shutter release. Didn't think to look at how the lense was set. In hind sight, this was moronic :laugh:

Damiano, you must know by now to not go by my written word, I don't know what I'm doing let alone typing.

Dami
14-05-09, 18:39
socket s1-s4 should be digi and dosers? (piggy backed)
and socket s5-s8 should be anologue?
right:confused:

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:42
that's what I think.

the digi bar has two coms sockets, top one has a lead to S1-S4.
then the bottom coms socket has a cable to the dosers.

Analogue is plugged into S5-S8.

Now, Digi bar is plugged into mains. Analogue bar is plugged into mains. Dosers are plugged into the Analogue bar, and nothing. I'm sure I had them plugged into the analogue bar before so can't think that this is an issue.

Dami
14-05-09, 18:47
what are the doser plugged into?
i'm gonna make the grave error of asking if the power supply for the doser is plugged into the mains.....

am currently hiding coz i know your gonna chuck something back, but i gotta point it out just in case......:o

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:49
lol. as above, doser is plugged into the analogue for power, digi for coms.

Dami
14-05-09, 18:52
Scott, go to menu:
then socket out let, then what numbers doser are assigned to.

you should be something like

S1 nothing
S2 nothing
s3 nothing
s4 nothing
s5 anologue
s6 anologue
s7 anologue
s8 anologue
s9-14 digi
s15-18dosers....

if so your dosers need to be in the digi bar....
I'm sure they need to be in it anyways.

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:54
i will go have a look, but how i set them up was

S1 doser A
S2 doser B
S3 doser C
S4 doser D
S5 Lighting 1 Digital
S6 Lighting 2 Digital
S7 Lighting 3 Digital
S8 Heater Digital
S9 Fans Digital
S10 Fans Digital
S11 On constant Analogue
S12 On constant Analogue
S13 On constant Analogue
S14 On constant Analogue

Dami
14-05-09, 18:54
yeah, and if you take the power supply to the dosers out of the anologue bar and test it in the house mains socket, does it turn on?

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:55
right, let me go get the dosers and plug them in this here wall socket, see what happens......

2 ticks.

Dami
14-05-09, 18:57
i will go have a look, but how i set them up was

S1 doser A
S2 doser B
S3 doser C
S4 doser D
S5 Lighting 1 Digital
S6 Lighting 2 Digital
S7 Lighting 3 Digital
S8 Heater Digital
S9 Fans Digital
S10 Fans Digital
S11 On constant Analogue
S12 On constant Analogue
S13 On constant Analogue
S14 On constant Analogue

hmmm, don't know then.
thought it maybe also
s1-s4 doser
s5-s8anologue
s9-s14digi

always thought s5-s8 was assigned to anologue only unless they were re-named

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:58
ok, dosers power plug put in wall, dosers light up with power, no coms.

Dami
14-05-09, 18:59
right, let me go get the dosers and plug them in this here wall socket, see what happens......

2 ticks.

BANG!!:D

SCOOB
14-05-09, 18:59
hmmm, don't know then.
thought it maybe also
s1-s4 doser
s5-s8anologue
s9-s14digi

always thought s5-s8 was assigned to anologue only unless they were re-named


Before I got dosing pumps I am 99% certain i had Digi6 plugged into S1-S4 and the Analogue4 plugged into S5-S8 on the back of the Profi.

The socket allocation looked like this.....

S1 not in use
S2 not in use
S3 not in use
S4 not in use
S5 Lighting 1 Digital
S6 Lighting 2 Digital
S7 Lighting 3 Digital
S8 Heater Digital
S9 Fans Digital
S10 Fans Digital
S11 On constant Analogue
S12 On constant Analogue
S13 On constant Analogue
S14 On constant Analogue

Dami
14-05-09, 19:01
ok, dosers power plug put in wall, dosers light up with power, no coms.

ok, so it works!
digi works too!

just anologue to sort out then.
coms for doser should be off the digi, and this should work right?:confused:
can you check what numbers the anologue was assigned to....
and try switching them on and off again.

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:03
yeah, i think the issue is the analogue bar. Trouble is, it doesn't have any coms or power lights like the digi bar, which is annoying. So unless it's active, you've no idea if it's doing anything.

Gonna go and put S1-S4 to Digi6 top socket. Then piggy back the second socket on the digi6 to the doser and plug doser in wall.

See what happens......

Dami
14-05-09, 19:04
Before I got dosing pumps I am 99% certain i had Digi6 plugged into S1-S4 and the Analogue4 plugged into S5-S8 on the back of the Profi.

The socket allocation looked like this.....

S1 not in use
S2 not in use
S3 not in use
S4 not in use
S5 Lighting 1 Digital
S6 Lighting 2 Digital
S7 Lighting 3 Digital
S8 Heater Digital
S9 Fans Digital
S10 Fans Digital
S11 On constant Analogue
S12 On constant Analogue
S13 On constant Analogue
S14 On constant Analogue

How?
if s5-s8 is fixed as anologue as per the manual then how can you plug it into s5-s8 and the uint is asking it o turn on s11-14 then its not gonna work. it's trying to switch the wrong channels.....:confused:
unless you re assigned the names of the s5-s8 western socket?!

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:07
ok, done as above and digi6 is showing power and coms. Doser is showing power and coms.

So only issues now are

Analogue4 is dead at present.
Digi6 is not activating any sockets for lighting, which it should given the time.

Co-incidence????

One way to find out, remove lap top from this table and go and get them to speak to each other. See if the GHL has dropped the socket times and functions.

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:10
How?
if s5-s8 is fixed as anologue as per the manual then how can you plug it into s5-s8 and the uint is asking it o turn on s11-14 then its not gonna work. it's trying to switch the wrong channels.....:confused:
unless you re assigned the names of the s5-s8 western socket?!

ok, I'll try one last time, and then afterwards, you are just going to have to believe me :laugh:

digi6 IS plugged into S1-S4 on the back of the profi.
Analogue4 IS plugged into S5-S8 on the back of the profi.

Bang on, absolutely right.

However, the digi6 has always started its socket numbering from 5. I don't know why, it always has. Thus it has outlets 5,6,7,8,9,10. Then it automatically steps to the analogue in S5-S8 with 11,12,13,14.

When I got the dosers, Steve said piggy back it off the digi and it will auto fill the 1-4 that have been missing.

Bob's your uncle the dude, as ever, was right.

Dami
14-05-09, 19:10
i give up :o
stev can help, he knows it all... and how you've done this :whistling:
will go and look at mine after me shower and check back here if you haven't already resolved it....

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:11
lol, valiant effort sir, valiant effort.

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:20
ok, now hooked up to it via usb...

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2009Q1/ghhgghghl.jpg

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:21
that's not how i remembered them, sounds like as you describe now Damiano.

Either way, if they are ticked, and its got coms and power to digi6 and doser, surely something should happen?

Just switched to manual override and turned them all on, nothing happened.

stevew@reefdreams
14-05-09, 19:30
Step away from the computer!!!

Back in a min - Is UR not sending emails at the moment, as I didn't get post notifications????

Steve

AlanM
14-05-09, 19:35
Step away from the computer!!!

Back in a min - Is UR not sending emails at the moment, as I didn't get post notifications????

Steve

Stopped sending them early afternoon.

Dami
14-05-09, 19:41
right ok, so your s5-8 IS set to analogue......
and your digi.....

scrap that, Steve is here now, so he'll sort you out.....:wave:

SCOOB
14-05-09, 19:49
just set it off into a mexican stand off so had to crash the laptop for a sec :laugh:

I've now disconected the analogue bar, I don't need it at all.

Damiano, analogue has always been plugged into S5-S8.

Dami
14-05-09, 19:51
right ok, so your s5-8 IS set to analogue......


set to, not plugged into (yes i know it's plugged into it also).
:wave: